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Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
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Author:  CAJazzGuy [ Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
Hello all - First, thank you for the wealth of info available in this forum.

My question. I've located what appears to be a clean and authentic Cosmonaute 809. It was advertised as having the Venus 178 movement, however the reference on the case back indicates 809-36. After educating myself in this forum it is my understanding that this reference usually (always?) used the Valjoux 7736. Further examination from a subsequently supplied photo of the watch with the back removed confirms it has the Valjoux 7736. Seller is asking US $5,800 - worth the purchase?

Attached image courtesy of seller.
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
seems to be in very good condition, but at least 20% too high for me
Author:  CAJazzGuy [ Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
WatchFred wrote:
seems to be in very good condition, but at least 20% too high for me


Thank you Fred.
Author:  Jhdscript [ Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
The watch looks great and in goodcondition.
Author:  Dom87 [ Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
is it not a gold version dial?
Author:  Kurt B [ Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
CAJazzGuy wrote:
Hello all - First, thank you for the wealth of info available in this forum.

My question. I've located what appears to be a clean and authentic Cosmonaute 809. It was advertised as having the Venus 178 movement, however the reference on the case back indicates 809-36. After educating myself in this forum it is my understanding that this reference usually (always?) used the Valjoux 7736. Further examination from a subsequently supplied photo of the watch with the back removed confirms it has the Valjoux 7736. Seller is asking US $5,800 - worth the purchase?

Attached image courtesy of seller.



We need a better picture to confirm that the lume on the numbers are actually Tritium as the dial indicates. Personally I don’t think it’s Tritium.
Pushers have definitely been replaced.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
Kurt, 7736 pushers are longer, need more travel.
but good pics would be nice ;)
Author:  Kurt B [ Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
WatchFred wrote:
Kurt, 7736 pushers are longer, need more travel.
but good pics would be nice ;)


Maybe you’re right.

Subdial hands are wrong too. (Sorry, they are not, saw subdials as small at first)

The watch is a freak imo.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
must admit I have no reliable comparison base for the 7736 Navs & Cosmonautes - which, btw., did not appear in the production ledgers
Author:  CAJazzGuy [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
Kurt B wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
Kurt, 7736 pushers are longer, need more travel.
but good pics would be nice ;)


Maybe you’re right.

Subdial hands are wrong too. (Sorry, they are not, saw subdials as small at first)

The watch is a freak imo.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


For all interested, offered without any endorsement or prejudice here is the link to the seller's site with additional photos:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Breitling/ ... s'/BRT2828
Author:  Kurt B [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
CAJazzGuy wrote:
Kurt B wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
Kurt, 7736 pushers are longer, need more travel.
but good pics would be nice ;)


Maybe you’re right.

Subdial hands are wrong too. (Sorry, they are not, saw subdials as small at first)

The watch is a freak imo.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


For all interested, offered without any endorsement or prejudice here is the link to the seller's site with additional photos:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Breitling/ ... s'/BRT2828


As predicted, Luminova dial...

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
have you ever seen a confirmed Tritium dial on the 809-36, Kurt?
Author:  Kurt B [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
WatchFred wrote:
have you ever seen a confirmed Tritium dial on the 809-36, Kurt?


Confirmed by whoom ?

I don’t pay any attention to them at all, just noticed the “T”......

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
confirmed by you was my question - I don’t remember seeing other lume on 899-36, but never owned one.
Author:  drewman78 [ Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cosmonaute 809 - Venus 178 vs Valjoux 7736
CAJazzGuy wrote:
Kurt B wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
Kurt, 7736 pushers are longer, need more travel.
but good pics would be nice ;)


Maybe you’re right.

Subdial hands are wrong too. (Sorry, they are not, saw subdials as small at first)
https://www.autoclicker.onl/
The watch is a freak imo.

Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com


For all interested, offered without any endorsement or prejudice here is the link to the seller's site with additional photos:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Breitling/ ... s'/BRT2828

did not appear in the production ledgers
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