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| Author: | maximolider [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Hello Breitling enthusiasts, I have a Breitling Navitimer 806, with a Venus 178 movement with a WOG stamp, and serial 825075. Please see the two attached images, front and back. It seems to have 92 bezels. The serial seems to be 1954, the bezel would be 1959. I know that the dial and the hands are Breitling, but do not seem to correspond to any of the years. Can anybody share some of the history of this watch? And what would you do, hunt for the original dial and hands or leave as it is? If so, where? Any help would be greatly appreciated! |
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| Author: | dgercp [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Well, the dial is from the mid to late 1960's and the hands look replaced. For that early a serial would expect BOW, not WOG on movement. Serial that early on a navi should be a valjoux 72. You got a franken, but the bezel is very nice. |
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| Author: | maximolider [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Hello dgercp, thanks for your insight. In recap: dial and hands: mid / late 60s bezel: 1959 (?) serial: 1954 (?) movement (Venus 178): as early as of 1955 in Navitimers (unofficialbreitlingfaq) Considering the serial numbers issue at Breitling, couldn't be bezel, serial and movement be of the same watch? |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
yes, Venus 178 was used in 1955 - but these had the "BOW" import code well into 1956, only then replaced by "WOG". it could theoretically be another misstamped case and be a 1960 production piece, which would be in line w/ bezel and import code; would be the first "1954" example I remember. dial, sliderule and hands are late 1960s |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
I am going for franken .. no fence for me |
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| Author: | vintage [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
So, the 1953 (according to the chart) serial number is another misstamp? |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
vintage wrote: So, the 1953 (according to the chart) serial number is another misstamp? 'another' ? , I dont know of any other misstamp other than the 53 <-> 60 |
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| Author: | vintage [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Dracha wrote: vintage wrote: So, the 1953 (according to the chart) serial number is another misstamp? 'another' ? , I dont know of any other misstamp other than the 53 <-> 60 That's what I meant, another 53-60 misstamp not a different misstamp. Has anyone pinned down the serial number ranges on these? |
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| Author: | maximolider [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
vintage wrote: That's what I meant, another 53-60 misstamp not a different misstamp. Has anyone pinned down the serial number ranges on these? That would be great. Anybody? |
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Same old misstamp, 53 (825) and 60 (925). 1960 case, bezel and movement. Service hands, dial, and slide rule Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | maximolider [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
Eric_navi wrote: Same old misstamp, 53 (825) and 60 (925). 1960 case, bezel and movement. Service hands, dial, and slide rule So no Franken, I understand when it comes to case, bezel and movement, all 1960. Dial, slide and hands later 60s. Is that a correct resumée? Greatly appreciated!!! |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
oh its franken case is from 1960 , should have an all black dial dial is from post 1966 (67/68/69?) movement looks like a 1960 movement to me so someone put an incorrect late 60ies dial, with incorrect hands and sliderule in an 1960 case with 1960 movement |
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer Venus 178, 1954 or 1959? |
maximolider wrote: Eric_navi wrote: Same old misstamp, 53 (825) and 60 (925). 1960 case, bezel and movement. Service hands, dial, and slide rule So no Franken, I understand when it comes to case, bezel and movement, all 1960. Dial, slide and hands later 60s. Is that a correct resumée? Greatly appreciated!!! Definitely franken Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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