I have absolutely no reason to doubt this watch as I bought it from the original owner with papers
but it does show very sloppy lume , a very 'phat' '12' and a lumed chronotip
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| Author: | Dracha [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
I have absolutely no reason to doubt this watch as I bought it from the original owner with papers but it does show very sloppy lume , a very 'phat' '12' and a lumed chronotip
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| Author: | nicolas07 [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Interesting indeed. I would have though it was relumed if you have not said it is not. |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Dracha wrote: I have absolutely no reason to doubt this watch as I bought it from the original owner with papers but it does show very sloppy lume , a very 'phat' '12' and a lumed chronotip It looks odd, but it's definitely Tritium. It looks like a lot of artificial light has been used in shooting the picture, and that makes the Trituim look better/different/more glossy, then it is for real. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Hi Kurt I shot pics in shade (3rd pic) full sunlight (1st and 4th pic) and with 2 studio flash pods (2nd pic) to show different angles , graininess of the lume , thickness of the lume etc. so thats why it maybe looks different colours under different light , but its really light still its definitely tritium and I see no evidence on any of the hour marks , hands or '12' that 'old lume' was previously removed or lumed over old lume absolutely no scratches on the dial around any of the hour markers that point toward old lume removal After having studied the dial under a loupe for an hour or so I can only conclude its original , as sloppy as it is and I agree , its very sloppy ! |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
another unedited pic that I didnt use as it shows the scratches on the plexi that I didnt polish yet I think if you click on the pic you can enlarge it a lot ? http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc15 ... g~original |
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| Author: | dgercp [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Maybe the lumer had a blood alcohol level? 
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Dracha wrote: Hi Kurt I shot pics in shade (3rd pic) full sunlight (1st and 4th pic) and with 2 studio flash pods (2nd pic) to show different angles , graininess of the lume , thickness of the lume etc. so thats why it maybe looks different colours under different light , but its really light still its definitely tritium and I see no evidence on any of the hour marks , hands or '12' that 'old lume' was previously removed or lumed over old lume absolutely no scratches on the dial around any of the hour markers that point toward old lume removal After having studied the dial under a loupe for an hour or so I can only conclude its original , as sloppy as it is and I agree , its very sloppy ! I don't believe the Tritium has been redone, for the same reasons as yourself, it's probably just one of those dials that looks a little aside, and it is really just a little, nothing wrong with that at all, and it's a beautiful watch. / Kurt http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
we seem to be unanimous here; nice. Kurt, what is your opinion regarding the lume tip on the chrono second hand ? We had doubts and thought these were "after market" or relumes, but we now had several watches with perfectly fitting lumed tips and this one from the original owner, who claims it was never altered. I'm off the fence regarding that, too many similar examples, but would like to hear what you think ? |
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| Author: | cal_11 [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Only "SWISS MADE T"? If I remember correctly, the first T stands for Tritium on the dial, the second for the hands? |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
WatchFred wrote: we seem to be unanimous here; nice. Kurt, what is your opinion regarding the lume tip on the chrono second hand ? We had doubts and thought these were "after market" or relumes, but we now had several watches with perfectly fitting lumed tips and this one from the original owner, who claims it was never altered. I'm off the fence regarding that, too many similar examples, but would like to hear what you think ? Fred, I'm guessing here, just like yourself, I believe that they was delivered like that, with a lumed tips, we have simply seen so many of them, that it makes a lot of sense. / Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
cal_11 wrote: Only "SWISS MADE T"? If I remember correctly, the first T stands for Tritium on the dial, the second for the hands? that is interesting , where did you hear that ? I have never seen or heard that hypothesis before but I have several watches (806's , 2005's , 809's , 1765's, 2006, etc) that only have 1 'T' on the dial |
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| Author: | 806er [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
interesting to see this opinion change: viewtopic.php?t=56156   Stephan |
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| Author: | 806er [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
Dracha wrote: cal_11 wrote: Only "SWISS MADE T"? If I remember correctly, the first T stands for Tritium on the dial, the second for the hands? that is interesting , where did you hear that ? I have never seen or heard that hypothesis before but I have several watches (806's , 2005's , 809's , 1765's, 2006, etc) that only have 1 'T' on the dial i also never hear that, but interesting to talk about and find out, but if this hypothesis should be correct it only can be correct for a later SN range, because the from Rene showed 806 with "SWISS MADE T" is correct this way it is. perhabs someone knows more, why we find the different markings - is there a reason for that, like cal_11 wrote or something else or only a change in marking without special reason. Stephan |
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| Author: | 806er [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
806er wrote: Dracha wrote: cal_11 wrote: Only "SWISS MADE T"? If I remember correctly, the first T stands for Tritium on the dial, the second for the hands? that is interesting , where did you hear that ? I have never seen or heard that hypothesis before but I have several watches (806's , 2005's , 809's , 1765's, 2006, etc) that only have 1 'T' on the dial i also never hear that, but interesting to talk about and find out, but if this hypothesis should be correct it only can be correct for a later SN range, because the from Rene showed 806 with "SWISS MADE T" is (also) correct this way it is for a dial with tritium on dial and hands perhabs someone knows more, why we find the different markings - is there a reason for that, like cal_11 wrote or something else or only a change in marking without special reason. Stephan |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1965 806 sloppy lume , phat '12' and lumed chronotip |
806er wrote: interesting to see this opinion change: we all keep learning and its hard to argue with a watch that has provenance and all papers and signed papers 
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