+ lug form incorrect
+ sliderule width and dial diameter incorrect
and more
looks like somebody had a Venus 184 movement and "built" a Chronomat Moonphase.
here's a ref. 786 for you, Nicolas; happy hunting
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| Author: | nicolas07 [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
Hi all, As I was searching for information on early Chronomat ref 769, I found what it is supposed to be rarest versions: one with three registers and one with moon phase at 12. Very nice pieces but I did not find many information about them. Is anyone here has one of these rare birds? Would you know how many of them were produced - what was the production year? I saw that it was during the 40's but did not find more details... Thank you for any information. Regards, Nicolas |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
H Nicolas please post pics as I have seen fakes / frankens of this watch ideally I would like to see a dial shot, inside and outside of the caseback and a movement shot and yes, they are very rare !! |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
these are three distinct models, the one w/ three registers is a ref. 786, the moonphase plus date version is ref. 801. no production numbers are available, both models were, as far as available specimens indicate, wre inly produced in the mid 1940s - or at least all cases we have seen bear serial numbers from that period. only a handful of both have survived. |
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| Author: | nicolas07 [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
Thank you for answers. I did not know specific ref numbers, it's interesting. René, I was especially thinking of pictures I saw in the catalogue of Chrono24 auctionata 05 august 2014 (lot 6) but I have the feeling that this is a redial. http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/286 ... ch-ref-806 Anyway, the sale is closed and I did not find any other example for sale for the time being ^^. |
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
Caseback stamped 806!? |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
I'd pass on that one -: dial and silderule ring reprinted -: Crown incorrect -: 'B' Breitling on the caseback inside seems incorrect -: (as Eric says) 806 on the back ?????? -: Ive never seen an '18K' stamp on the lug before |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
+ lug form incorrect + sliderule width and dial diameter incorrect and more looks like somebody had a Venus 184 movement and "built" a Chronomat Moonphase. here's a ref. 786 for you, Nicolas; happy hunting
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
Some of those Auctionata lots are awfully creative aren't they... This is gorgeous Fred, I might just add the photo to my "get lucky" list. 
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
yes, they are. Could make them withdraw some pieces, but they were adamant this "806" was correct. Rob has left auctionata, so I'd expect it to get worse .... good luck w/ that 786, Eric; we've seen two correct examples over the years, this being one of them; but remembering the 817, you'll probably find one tomorrow
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
This old thing??  Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1422257820.024511.jpg
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| Author: | nicolas07 [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
WatchFred wrote: + lug form incorrect + sliderule width and dial diameter incorrect and more looks like somebody had a Venus 184 movement and "built" a Chronomat Moonphase. here's a ref. 786 for you, Nicolas; happy hunting Very very niece piece Fred! Only two in several years!? That makes it almost impossible to find! I will open my eyes and learn so that if I find one one day I will be able to check if it is correct or not. Who knows! 
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| Author: | Eric_navi [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Special versions of Chronomat ref 769 |
Keep searching Nicolas, maybe some of these guys are starting to get tired
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