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Author:  Felixhal [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Newbie with an 809, comments please..

Hallo all, I'm new here & new in vintage Breitling scene, recently I stumbled on this beautiful piece and tried my best to acquire it,
well... It worked and I couldn't be happier, this is my very first Breitling. I'm a vintage Rolex collector with obviously zero knowledge about Breitlings.
Here's some pics I just took.
Btw, this piece was once issued to King Hussein bin Thalal of Jordan, I was told.. :geek:
Thanx for looking & would appreciate your comments
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Author:  mt_hangglider [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

Beautiful watch that appears to be in really nice shape! Do you know what year it was made? I'm in the same boat as you and just acquired my first Navitimer, a 1967 809, earlier this year. It was just shipped back yesterday from my watchmaker after being serviced. Can't wait! Our watches have the 24 hour version of the Venus 178, a column wheel chronograph movement. The 24 hour version of the Navitimer came about in 1962 after Scott Carpenter (Astronaut for the Mercury / Aurora 7 space flight) requested Breitling make him a 24 hour version of the 12 hour Navitimer he had previously used as a pilot. The reason for that was it is hard to differentiate day and night when orbiting in space hence the 24 hour movement. There are folks on here a lot more knowledgeable than myself that I'm sure will chime in. Interesting caseback by the way with the middle eastern insignia. That's the first I've seen something like that. Again, congrats and welcome to the forum!

Author:  Felixhal [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

mt_hangglider wrote:
Beautiful watch that appears to be in really nice shape! Do you know what year it was made? I'm in the same boat as you and just acquired my first Navitimer, a 1967 809, earlier this year. It was just shipped back yesterday from my watchmaker after being serviced. Can't wait! Our watches have the 24 hour version of the Venus 178, a column wheel chronograph movement. The 24 hour version of the Navitimer came about in 1962 after Scott Carpenter (Astronaut for the Mercury / Aurora 7 space flight) requested Breitling make him a 24 hour version of the 12 hour Navitimer he had previously used as a pilot. The reason for that was it is hard to differentiate day and night when orbiting in space hence the 24 hour movement. There are folks on here a lot more knowledgeable than myself that I'm sure will chime in. Interesting caseback by the way with the middle eastern insignia. That's the first I've seen something like that. Again, congrats and welcome to the forum!


I was told it's an early 70's made.. I haven't open the case back yet, just got it couple days ago..
Thanx for your compliments, hope your 809 comes better than expected...

Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

beautiful piece, congratulations - and welcome to breitlingsource.

most probably manufactured between 1964 and 1966, maybe early 1967.

there are many Navitimers that have those Jordan markings - most probably none were personal watches of the king, but ordered by the court and handed out as presents.

Author:  buddman [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

WatchFred wrote:
beautiful piece, congratulations - and welcome to breitlingsource.

most probably manufactured between 1964 and 1966, maybe early 1967.

there are many Navitimers that have those Jordan markings - most probably none were personal watches of the king, but ordered by the court and handed out as presents.


non-original casebacks as no Breitling branding. or would have Breitling custom made them for Jordan like this?

Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

Breitling produced them as far as we know.

Author:  Felixhal [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

Thanx for your comments,.... Appreciate it much
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Author:  MarkusJ [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

I am a little bit confused, as the case back looks quite different to the caseback of my King Hussein Navitimer. The crown printing is much more detailed and the crown as well as the script seems to be larger at my watch, but both can be probably due to the later date of my watch, which is a 7806.

Author:  Felixhal [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

MarkusJ wrote:
I am a little bit confused, as the case back looks quite different to the caseback of my King Hussein Navitimer. The crown printing is much more detailed and the crown as well as the script seems to be larger at my watch, but both can be probably due to the later date of my watch, which is a 7806.


Markus, as far as I know, there are 3 types of different engraving pattern for King Hussein issue.
Mine is a smaller or the smallest engraving of all, hence the details isn't that great, no engraving head small enuf during those time imo..

Author:  MarkusJ [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie with an 809, comments please..

Dear Felix,
thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware of these different engraving patterns.

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