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1962 809
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Author:  adrianlowsy [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  1962 809
Hi,

This watch just surfaced at my local watch dealer. It has box and papers, unfortunately there is no movement pictures. I would like to ask if 1) everything from the pictures is original and 2) the patina on the watch looks a lot more aged than watches of the same era which you guys have posted. Is it a sign to be concerned of (moisture damage) or it's acceptable patina.

The market price for 809's seem to be around $2,500 to $4000. What would be a fair estimation of this watch considering its rarity/condition? I know valuations are highly subjective and frowned upon but I'm only asking because the watch is for sale by "expression of interest" and i wanted to know what would be a fair offer.

Regards,
Adrian
Author:  Dracha [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
I believe he's looking for >9K AUD$

You cant really compare this with post 1962 watches, this is the 'original' all black 809 , the 1st model and similar that was worn by Scott Carpenter

Rarity is the biggest factor here
Author:  adrianlowsy [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
Thanks Rene,

I'm curious about the patina on the watch? Is it due to tritium? If so why does it look so 'old' compared to others?

Regards,
Adrian
Author:  Dracha [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
Probably a combination of moisture and something else (nicotine ?, sunlight ?)

Personally i would pass on this one unless he accepts a <4K AUD$ offer, which I know he doesnt ;-)
Author:  adrianlowsy [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
Haha thanks for the advice, 9k is a bit much. and after looking at some of your watches, i don't think i would be happy with that dial even though its super rare.
Author:  erolso [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
This is a beautiful watch and the "beads of rice" bezel and all-black dial make it super collectable. be very careful with bids/offers on this watch - easily US$5000 IMO

Oh forgot to add, I believe that the coloring is probably a sign of moisture damage and likely the nicotine angle that other post mentioned. If it still functions properly, then any moisture damage would be highly limited. Personally, I think the yellowing of the dial is somewhat normal for this age of watch...I am suspect of watches that don't look like this i.e. too new.
Author:  cruvon [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
Nice watch but the blackened/dark greenish lume on the hour counters is not attractive to most collectors.
Author:  Dracha [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
cruvon wrote:
Nice watch but the blackened/dark greenish lume on the hour counters is not attractive to most collectors.


true
but its not like you can go out and choose from different examples

its been the only one for sale for a long time
Author:  saabreit [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
It would be interesting to see it without crystal . When I found my all black 806 , it was looking yellowish due to aged crystal.
Author:  buddman [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
I don't think its the crystal because the Breitling script is quite white.
Author:  Dracha [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1962 809
buddman wrote:
I don't think its the crystal because the Breitling script is quite white.


agree , it doesnt seem to be the crystal

I wonder if or how much you can clean it up , I fear not a whole lot ?
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