Here is a V72 movement , typically signed with BOW and asymmetrical pusher placement when measured from the crown. but if you post a pic of your watch we can easily tell which you have from looking at the dial
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| Author: | An every day luxury [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
I will apologize in advance .. New to the forum and the hobby I have a 1955 Navitimer and am trying to identify the movement. v72 or Venus ? Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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| Author: | MattC [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
It was a Valjoux 72. http://www.breitling-museum.com/Breitli ... timer.html |
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| Author: | An every day luxury [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Thanks MattC I thought all 55s were v72s also. A highly respected Horologist told me it was a Venus? Just a typo? I don't want to sound stupid when responding ....although I feel a little stupid asking anyway. Any way I can identify it myself? Thanks again Matt |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Here is a V72 movement , typically signed with BOW and asymmetrical pusher placement when measured from the crown. but if you post a pic of your watch we can easily tell which you have from looking at the dial
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
MattC wrote: It was a Valjoux 72. http://www.breitling-museum.com/Breitli ... timer.html there were both R72 and V178 manufactured in 1955, the clear majority of watches that survived are Venus-based. PLEASE do not link to this site as a reference - the Navitimers are not so bad, but most of the rest of the vintage pieces displayed are outright fakes - the selection criteria to enter that "Museum", quoting the site owner: "I grab off ebay any watch that I like" ..... |
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| Author: | MattC [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
WatchFred wrote: MattC wrote: It was a Valjoux 72. http://www.breitling-museum.com/Breitli ... timer.html there were both R72 and V178 manufactured in 1955, the clear majority of watches that survived are Venus-based. PLEASE do not link to this site as a reference - the Navitimers are not so bad, but most of the rest of the vintage pieces displayed are outright fakes - the selection criteria to enter that "Museum", quoting the site owner: "I grab off ebay any watch that I like" ..... Didn't realize that Fred, I won't link to that site again. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
That's a lot of misinformation in not a lot of posts! As noted, please ignore that site as a credible source for anything, and as Fred notes it could be either. If you can provide a movement shot and / or a shot of the crown and pushers we will be able to tell you exactly which you have. Most importantly, welcome to BreitlingSource. |
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| Author: | An every day luxury [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Here are a couple of pics. Thanks again! |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Valjoux R72 - and it looks like a very well preserved example ! would love to see larger pics, please ? |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Beautiful watch.... / Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | An every day luxury [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
Only 200kb pics? |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
well, you could always use a hosting service ? viewtopic.php?f=5&t=453 very, very beautiful piece; congratulations again ! |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
An every day luxury wrote: Only 200kb pics? I'll bet my money that the hands have been repainted & relumed, and there's a chance that the dial have been relumed as well, though I doubt, but only a much better picture can tell us. If I'm right, then it takes a lot of value out of it. There's wear to the case, why none to the dial & hands ? ? ? We know for sure that the silver plated hands all corrode, look at my NOS 1955 Val 72, even on that one 1 of the hands have corroded, and they are matte silver, the hands on the other one looks like silver painted. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com 
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| Author: | An every day luxury [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
KurtB All original - hands have wear and have been shellacked to preserve the original hand luminous. http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/fisch ... vitimer%20 |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1955 806 Navitimer - V72 or Venus? |
An every day luxury wrote: KurtB All original - hands have wear and have been shellacked to preserve the original hand luminous. http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/fisch ... vitimer%20 Interesting, never thought about that before, but the pictures shows that you are right.....!!! But it’s both good & bad, bad if the shellack can’t be removed without removing the silver plating, and who dares to try ? ? ? The Tritium on the dial is original, no doubt about that. The reference number on the case back hurts the value, it’s correct – but most collectors prefers it without. That doesn’t really matter if you don’t plan to sell it though. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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