Hey, Cruvon! I took your advice and popped over here... this is a nice site!
Here are some photos of the old timer.
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| Author: | cruvon [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Hi, I just came across a Datora 785 with AOPA wings on it below the weekday-month windows and Incabloc below that and on a black dial. Did anyone here come across such a variation? Unfortunately can't post the pic here since belongs to a member on another forum, Thanks |
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Hey, Cruvon! I took your advice and popped over here... this is a nice site! Here are some photos of the old timer.
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| Author: | vintage [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
I remember seeing a very similar Wakmann with the same wings a few years ago. What does the back and movement look like? |
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| Author: | cruvon [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Nanuq wrote: Hey, Cruvon! I took your advice and popped over here... this is a nice site! Here are some photos of the old timer. Great seeing you here, welcome and am sure the guys here will be able assist with your query. Do post movement and outer/inner caseback pics if can! |
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| Author: | P51 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Welcome Nanuq. What a gorgeous Datora. Love the in the round shots too. Gives a real feel for the case depth. Stunning. Thanks for popping across and sharing. 
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
I just got a new lens for my iPhone, let me take the back off and I'll see if I can get a good shot. Stand by, gents. |
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Okay here are some fresh photos, I don't know how many I can upload here... if I need to I'll load them on my server and host them from there. Fingers crossed! Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494383.629824.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494394.197398.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494403.519422.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494413.465443.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494423.725208.jpg
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
And the last couple... Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494476.328700.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375494485.964562.jpg
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| Author: | vintage [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Looks like a Wakmann to me so technically it's neither a Datora or 785. 
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Is "Datora" a Breitling model designation? Interesting, you learn something new every day. Hope you liked it! |
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| Author: | Nanuq [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
vintage wrote: Looks like a Wakmann to me so technically it's neither a Datora or 785. Interesting, I found another thread here with more details; apparently the movement was sourced from Breitling to be assembled in the USA. http://www.breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/v ... php?t=5407 |
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| Author: | cruvon [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Nice pics NanuQ. I too think it's a Wakmann as Vintage has mentioned based on the new pictures though yours is a much more beautiful dial than the one in the link you posted above showing the other Wakmann. Lets also see what Fred (WatchFred) and Roff(Roffensian) have to say about this one and if they have seen another in this configuration. Also any model designation on the case back? As far as I know about Wakmann and Breitling, some Breitlings were marketed by Wakmann in the US during a US embargo, others had a Breitling and Wakmann collaboration so some show Wakmann and Breitling markings while others were wholly Wakmann manufactured and had nothing to do with Breitling watches. For example here's a pic of my Wakmann distributed Navitimer showing a Wakmann box (1955). I am guessing your watch will be somewhere after 54-55 depending on when the AOPA-Wakmann relationship began. With Breitling, that relationship with AOPA began in 1954.  Btw for pics you can also put them in high resolution in Photobucket.com and post the links here. |
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| Author: | P51 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Its still a beautiful watch.  Thanks cruvon for talking him across to here. |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
nice piece, very nice. before the pictures loaded I feared it would either be another mid 60s Breitling 785 fake, but there is no Breitling claim or incorrectly added signatures, "just" a beautiful watch - as Paul said, "Datora" was a Breitling trademark. had expected to see a Charles Gigandet marking inside the caseback like the widely available triple date chronographs we see w/ Wakmann, Gigandet and Vulcain branding, but this shows "made in France" only and no maker's mark, looks quite a bit earlier than the "normal" Wakmann Valjoux 730, still has a R72C, so would think it to be early 1960s - have read claims that Yema and Dodane were working for Wakmann, but did not find any documentation for this. love the hands on this one. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AOPA Incabloc Datora 785? |
Suspect that the France is just the case, although have seen a lot of 'French' Wakmanns. This seems to be in very nice condition, agree on the sentiments of early 60s - couldn't be much earlier than that with the Incabloc dial. Great piece! |
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