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| Author: | andyo [ Tue May 28, 2013 3:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Hi, I just picked up a lovely PVD 1806 Navitimer. PVD coating is mint and it falls within the 1974 serial number range. Does anyone know how rare these are - numbers, years? I've seen brochure refs designating it 1806-M but that's about it - not many photos or refs anywhere else. Also, I'm pretty sure the box it came in is much older - very shallow, square, 'Navitimer' on top. Does anyone know which box would be correct for this model? Thanks in advance for any info, AndyO... 
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
congrats; very, very nice. we do not have any production quantity data for vintage Breitlings, but the 1806-M is very, very rare - especially in this condition. grabbed a pic of the web for u that shows the possible "correct" boxes, thread located here: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f15/its-of ... 51516.html the "big case" pieces often came in the yellow cardboard box that shows a pic of the 1806, but also in the larger (much rarer) "VCR cassette" boxes shown on the left with that ref. 806. the box you have is a mid 60s ref. 806 Navitimer box from Europe, US boxes were different. 
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Condition of that piece really is incredible - congrats on a wonderful pickup. |
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| Author: | andyo [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Hi, thanks for the reply. I wonder what the -M was for...Military perhaps(?) Thanks for the box info also. There is a price type sticker on the side '781-2' which I guess refers to a model number. I've done a search but the nearest i can find is a 'Premier' which I don't think is correct either as it says 'Navitimer' on the box  So, the hunt is on for the correct box and an 806 for the box I have, or maybe I should just trade boxes if I can Cheers, AndyO... |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Tue May 28, 2013 5:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
nope, the -M was for all the PVD versions good luck in your hunt for the correct boxes, this can be quite expensive. 781 would be a 1940s Premier, bicompax; not the ideal fit ? |
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| Author: | jlee5050 [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Holy schnapps that is beautiful.  Never seen that before. |
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| Author: | andyo [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
right, understood - all PVD models had a suffix '-M'. i'll take some pics of the box and post a WTT message - maybe someone wants to trade thanks for the info, AndyO... |
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| Author: | saabreit [ Tue May 28, 2013 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
In the past I only met 1 in poor condition , never a mint one like yours . Close to NOS for sure it is really a very nice grab, congrats ! |
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| Author: | andyo [ Tue May 28, 2013 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | more photos... |
here are a couple more pics. it really is a beautiful watch. Cheers, AndyO... there, it's not perfect - a few light scratches to the steel case back i've currently got it on a nice 70's corfam strap which suits it well.  a nice head on shot, sadly not taken by me. 
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Tue May 28, 2013 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
outstanding, truly outstanding |
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| Author: | cal_11 [ Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AW: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Is anybody knowing why "chrono-matic" is missing on the dials of some 1806? I have a similar dial in a normal 1806 steel-version (1969, near mint). |
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| Author: | saabreit [ Wed May 29, 2013 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Looks like using one "standard" batch of dials for 1806 ( automatic - cal 11 or 12) and 7806-S ( manual V7740) ? The Breitling pride for 1969 was the launch of the Chrono-Matic range - genral use of the automatic micro'rotor cal 11 and the production figures were at their maximum . In facts I guess that many watches remained unfinished - just see the NOS "case only" sets of this period for sale on eBay in the last 10 years and you will doubt on realness of production figures. SN were engraved on caseback by the case subcontractors ,and not at final assembly step ... In 1973 then 1974 the production figures were low and the end was not so far . It is a reasonable hypothesis that any savings were welcome. It is not based on historical datas , just my conviction . |
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| Author: | andyo [ Wed May 29, 2013 11:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AW: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
Yeah, I noticed the dial text also. Using online searches I've found only a handful of samples of the 1806-M; 2 with 'Chrono-matic' on the dial and 4 without. As an 'Heuer' fan the parallels of the 2 manufacturers in the mid-70's are very interesting. Around that time Heuer experimented with PVD producing the now very rare PVD Monaco - 74033N. It was however powered by the aforementioned V/J 7740. It's thought as few as 200 samples of this one were produced and less than 30 are currently known. It would be interesting to know roughly how many 1806-M are out there today. Cheers, AndyO...  cal_11 wrote: Is anybody knowing why "chrono-matic" is missing on the dials of some 1806?
I have a similar dial in a normal 1806 steel-version (1969, near mint). |
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| Author: | vintage [ Thu May 30, 2013 4:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PVD 1806 - How rare & which box? |
I've always thought the large hole Tropic straps are a perfect match for the big case watches since they actually came with them. Still can find them on ebay. http://www.breitlingsource.com/books_70s.shtml |
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| Author: | andyo [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Which box? This box! :-) |
Thanks for all the comments and especially to Michael for doing me a nice trade for the right box Also swapped to a 22mm black Swiss Tropic as per the brochure. Cheers, AndyO... 
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