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Author:  Dr_Jennings [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Breitling 177

Gentlemen,

What is your opinion about this watch ?
It is moved with a venus 170.

Thx for your help

Author:  vintage [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Looks like a Breitling ref 178. The hands aren't probably original. Need to see a shot of the back cover since it should have a serial number and reference number on it.

Author:  Dr_Jennings [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

No serial number outside the caseback.
A reference 177 is badly engraved ... but crown, dial and movement look ok.
Just add a pic of the caseback.

Does it sound possible to you it's original or is it a 18k fake ???

Author:  vintage [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Dr_Jennings wrote:
No serial number outside the caseback.
A reference 177 is badly engraved ... but crown, dial and movement look ok.
Just add a pic of the caseback.

Does it sound possible to you it's original or is it a 18k fake ???


There should be a serial number inside the caseback or on the outside of the caseback. It's not genuine for this style watch without it. That 177 is a number I don't remember seeing before and the quality of the engraving is poor. I think that's enough to stay away from this one if you're considering it.

Author:  Dr_Jennings [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

on one hand I agree with you but on the other I feel something curious ... how could it be a fake ?
I asked a pic of the inside of the caseback to the vendor

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Don't like this at all.

That 177 is not from the Breitling factory, and is not a correct reference that I've ever come across, and I don't like the movement ring either. Date looks way too new to be original as well.

Author:  Dr_Jennings [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

And furthermore it is a double case back :(
I'm not considering it anymore.

Thx gentlemen for your help

Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

clearly fake

Author:  Supermoto [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated

Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.

Author:  Supermoto [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Roffensian wrote:
Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.


I see what you mean with the engraving it is poor, still, it is a nice looker, would there have been a B on the crown or am I waffling on

Author:  jlee5050 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Supermoto wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.


I see what you mean with the engraving it is poor, still, it is a nice looker, would there have been a B on the crown or am I waffling on


I think this early of a piece if it was Breitling wouldn't have a B on the crown... Had a 46-47 Premier which I regret letting go by the way :cry: and it was unsigned... this looks perhaps from a similar era.

Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling 177

Would the crown of a non existent Breitling model have had a B?

Hmmm, need to think about that one - kinda like if a crown fell in a fake wood sort of thing :lol: :wink:

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