The Breitling Watch Source Forums :: View topic

Ooh heck! My problem is that there is a guy in Rome with one to sell, whilst I live in Turin, 700km north. He's a pensioner and says he can't do a photo, and so I'm a little sceptical about going all the way down there on the off-chance. He says it's in good order, so that being the case is there anything I, a watch luddite, might be able to ask to determine whether what he has is a geniune Breitling Giro?

Sorry to appear so dim-witted!

knew I had seen this before. this is the same watch you asked about in your OP, why do you think we might say something different this time ?

For the watch in Rome he just sent me a useless pdf (which I can't upload here). It's very difficult to make any sense of condition etc. and I'm not getting any real answers.

So the consensus, in essence, is that the World of Time watch

http://www.worldoftime.de/en/breitling-5932.html

isn't so very far away? If I've understood correctly it's not a fake, though at €1800 it's probably a bit overpriced?

Author:	77balmamion [ Tue May 24, 2011 8:43 am ]
Post subject:	Breitling Giro d'Italia
Hi, Forgive my appalling ignorance, but I'm interested in buying one of the 1950's Giro d'Italia Breitlings as a gift. It seems there are two types, one a 1190 INACBLOC (which I understand refers to some kind of shock-absorption) http://www.worldoftime.de/en/breitling-5932.html and what looks like a plated one, thus... http://cgi.ebay.com/Breitling-Chronogra ... 4786127796 Given that I'm completely clueless about these things, in the first instance is one better than the other, and in the second need I have any fears about spending money on either? Further, are there any issues around fakes I should be aware of? Many thanks in anticipation for any help...

Author:	Roffensian [ Tue May 24, 2011 8:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
This thread may provide some background - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29945 The eBay link you provide is for a seller who has a reputation for selling fake / franken watches (for exorbitant prices) - you won't find mnay fans of his here. I'm not a big fan of the other one either - looks a little new for my liking.

Author:	77balmamion [ Tue May 24, 2011 9:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
Ooh heck! My problem is that there is a guy in Rome with one to sell, whilst I live in Turin, 700km north. He's a pensioner and says he can't do a photo, and so I'm a little sceptical about going all the way down there on the off-chance. He says it's in good order, so that being the case is there anything I, a watch luddite, might be able to ask to determine whether what he has is a geniune Breitling Giro? Sorry to appear so dim-witted!

Author:	Roffensian [ Tue May 24, 2011 9:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
77balmamion wrote: Ooh heck! My problem is that there is a guy in Rome with one to sell, whilst I live in Turin, 700km north. He's a pensioner and says he can't do a photo, and so I'm a little sceptical about going all the way down there on the off-chance. He says it's in good order, so that being the case is there anything I, a watch luddite, might be able to ask to determine whether what he has is a geniune Breitling Giro? Sorry to appear so dim-witted! The world of time watch looks essentially correct - just very new (which suggests redial) so that's your descriptive baseline. Check that the back says 1190 and has a serial number between about 750xxx and 900xxx, and if he can access the movement we want to see a 188 below the balance - on the eBay listing you can just about see it at the bottom of the bottom left photo.

Author:	77balmamion [ Tue May 24, 2011 10:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
Thanks very much, appreciate it.

The Breitling Watch Source Forums https://www.breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/

Breitling Giro d'Italia https://www.breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30451	Page 1 of 3

Author:	WatchFred [ Tue May 24, 2011 11:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
both 1190s you mention are also quite optimistically priced. the 1190 we discussed in the thread Roff linked to has been relisted on ebay Italy, at a more realistic price point, this should give you an indication what price to aim for if you like the 1190 in Rome.

Author:	77balmamion [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
Hi all, http://www.worldoftime.de/en/breitling-5932.html This has 1190, but no serial number on the back. Thoughts?

Author:	WatchFred [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
optimistic pricing. case looks ok to me, ask the seller for a pic of the inside caseback, the serial number should be there. dial looks too good to be true, might be refinished. not sure the movement is period correct (no import code, logo on bridge...), Roff & Paul will know more. edit: knew I had seen this before. this is the same watch you asked about in your OP, why do you think we might say something different this time ?

Author:	Roffensian [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
WatchFred wrote: knew I had seen this before. this is the same watch you asked about in your OP, why do you think we might say something different this time ?

Author:	77balmamion [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
Sorry, didn't make myself plain. Given the previous discussion I wasn't sure whether the absence of a serial number on the back is pivotal, ie materially effects its authenticity / value etc. From what you're saying I seem to have learned that it's inside the case back where I'd assumed it was on the outside. When you say it appears to have had a new face, that presumably is a bad thing?

Author:	WatchFred [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
serial numbers do appear inside and outside the casebacks. as I assume the watch case is authentic, the serial number should be inside. I am sure the seller will be happy to supply this information. The dial looks to be refinished, which does diminish the collector value of this piece. The movement might be a later replacement, it does not appear period correct to me, but others might see this differently. The price has remained unchanged, so still quite on the high end of reasonable. But: If you like this watch, and want to either have a Giro di Italia, or specifically want a Breitling from 1956 (assuming the serial no. confirms this claim) - go for it ! What happened to the watch in Rome ?

Author:	77balmamion [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
For the watch in Rome he just sent me a useless pdf (which I can't upload here). It's very difficult to make any sense of condition etc. and I'm not getting any real answers. So the consensus, in essence, is that the World of Time watch http://www.worldoftime.de/en/breitling-5932.html isn't so very far away? If I've understood correctly it's not a fake, though at €1800 it's probably a bit overpriced?

Author:	Roffensian [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:20 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
77balmamion wrote: For the watch in Rome he just sent me a useless pdf (which I can't upload here). It's very difficult to make any sense of condition etc. and I'm not getting any real answers. So the consensus, in essence, is that the World of Time watch http://www.worldoftime.de/en/breitling-5932.html isn't so very far away? If I've understood correctly it's not a fake, though at €1800 it's probably a bit overpriced? 1) It's overpriced 2) It's a redial 3) It's probably not an original movement I wouldn't be giving it a second glance at half the asking price.

Author:	77balmamion [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
That's clear enough. Back to the drawing board...

Page 1 of 3	All times are UTC - 8 hours
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group https://www.phpbb.com/

Author:	77balmamion [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breitling Giro d'Italia
Christ, buying a watch is bloody hard work... Does 'redial' mean that the dial is a copy made by an different manufacturer and badged as a Breitling, or so simply that the original Breitling dial has been replaced by the manufacturer.