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| Author: | danomar [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2114? |
I thought I knew about the 2110/2111/2112 series, then I recently saw two 2114's for sale: White face: http://tinyurl.com/4kh9ajy PVD black: http://tinyurl.com/4fkuayx I apologize for the vague question, but how does the 2114 fit into the already vaguely interchangeable 211x lineup? Perhaps more important, I should first ask are the two given examples correct? TIA! -Daniel |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2114? |
Both look OK to me. They are in the 1969 catalogue - page 13 - http://www.breitlingsource.com/books_1969.shtml |
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| Author: | vintage [ Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2114? |
I might need to be convinced the PVD coating on the second one is factory original. Breitling used the PVD coating on very few watch models and this would be the earliest I have seen. |
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| Author: | Bill in Sacramento [ Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | I think it is borderline impossible. |
vintage wrote: I might need to be convinced the PVD coating on the second one is factory original. Breitling used the PVD coating on very few watch models and this would be the earliest I have seen. Since we were toying with the case numbering last weekend, we can ponder the history of this 2114 case, also dated to 1969. If we think it might be true that a very large number of cases, especially Chronomatic cases, were done up in 1969, it would stretch the limits of imagination to discover one that was blackened. Blackening was a very 1970s "thing" and even a mid- to late 1970s fashion, so it's not surprising there are no models shown in black in the 1969 or 1973 catalogs. Of course, one cannot tell without handling the watch, but the black one does appear to have had a particle vapor deposition treatment (PVD). Does the "powdery" matte finish look a bit grayish in direct light? PVD is a new century covering. Sure, it was invented a few decades before, but it was not affordably practical until around 2000. In the late 1970s, it would more likely be epoxy paint or a "chromium" plating as listed in the late 1970s brochure. [To my eye, the wear on the caseback does not match the fresh blackening.] That is not a Breitling bezel, which is odd, since a correct one is not too difficult to find. The dial is late 1970s and unusual. I don't believe a caliber 12 would be in a watch made in 1969, but we've been over this a few time before on the extended use of 1969 cases. I think the 2114 in Germany has had a lot of restoration work done, including a fashionable change of color. The one on eBay looks fresh and all-original. |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2114? |
I dont believe the PVD is factory original , at least it has been re-done look at pic #4 , above the top pusher the case clearly shows dents , but the PVD is like new and not flaked off or damaged where the dents are ? |
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| Author: | danomar [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2114? |
Many thanks for the replies. The black 2114 looked dodgy, especially with the nicks in the case. The seller does indicate it was fully restored, supposedly by Breitling. Out of curiosity, does anyone know what makes the 2114 different from a 2112 Chrono-matic with the same case? TIA! |
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| Author: | Bill in Sacramento [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | From the 1973 brochure |
danomar wrote: Out of curiosity, does anyone know what makes the 2114 different from a 2112 Chrono-matic with the same case? Here are the 2112 and 2114 from the 1973 brochure/catalog. Your German is probably better than mine, but it looks like the only difference listed here is a fixed bezel for 2114 versus a rotating bezel for a 2112. On that point, I wish to sheepishly point out that, for the 2114, it lists the option of a tachymeter, pulsometer, and a decimal bezel. I think I have now seen a Breitling pulsometer bezel. I was wrong about that. Sorry. I don't think I've seen a decimal one yet. And, if you look at the other link to a 2114 thread at the website danomar provided in the first post, you can see the condition of the watch before the seller sent it to Breitling. You can see the wear on the original "chrome" treatment. To me, that watch looks original (sans bezel), but it is too weird that it has a 1969 serial date for a blackened case with that dial. http://uhrforum.de/breitling-chrono-matic-2114-a-t39015 |
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