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. . . page 27 of the Esembl-O-Graf Chronograph Watch Calibre Guide, which shows the "Breitling" signature of the sample Venus 179 image. For this serial number and reference number, I would expect a third button. I think the "dual-use" crowns came just a few years later, but not in 1945 and as shown in the 1946 catalog.

I think this has a replacement rattrapante sweep second hand and a re-painted dial. I wonder if the 30-minute register really increments in 45-minutes, since that would be the 762 spec.

This would be a good one to handle for inspection. Since the movement parts show a real difference in discoloration, I wonder what an experienced watchmaker like Craig makes of a bridge so much more oxidized/corroded than most of the other movement parts. That may not be unusual, I just don't know. [I just know that for my projects, the crappy bits seem pretty uniform throughout the movement.]

It just might be that this one has been through a long and extensive period of rehabilitation.

Author:	chronomania [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:29 am ]
Post subject:	1945 Breitling Duograph Rattrapante
Here's a 1945 Duograph on that auction site: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Breitling-Duo-Graph-Chronograph-Split-Second-/160521510279?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item255fd3dd87

Author:	Roffensian [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:40 am ]
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I don't recall seeing the Breitling engraving on the balance cock before, and that style looks a little suspect to me.

Author:	Dracha [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:49 pm ]
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Ive seen the same engraving a few times (I know, some sources are better than others) http://www.i-am-spamming.de/x108-b ... -1264.html viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19525 but where's the rattrapante button on the Ebay one ?? , usually it had an extra button on the crown for the rattrapante function

Author:	chronomania [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 1945 Breitling Duograph Rattrapante
Dracha wrote: Ive seen the same engraving a few times (I know, some sources are better than others) http://www.i-am-spamming.de/x108-b ... -1264.html http://www.breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/v ... 11&t=19525 but where's the rattrapante button on the Ebay one ?? , usually it had an extra button on the crown for the rattrapante function It is a "Dual Use" crown

Author:	Bill in Sacramento [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:	The best source of for that movement is
. . . page 27 of the Esembl-O-Graf Chronograph Watch Calibre Guide, which shows the "Breitling" signature of the sample Venus 179 image. For this serial number and reference number, I would expect a third button. I think the "dual-use" crowns came just a few years later, but not in 1945 and as shown in the 1946 catalog. I think this has a replacement rattrapante sweep second hand and a re-painted dial. I wonder if the 30-minute register really increments in 45-minutes, since that would be the 762 spec. This would be a good one to handle for inspection. Since the movement parts show a real difference in discoloration, I wonder what an experienced watchmaker like Craig makes of a bridge so much more oxidized/corroded than most of the other movement parts. That may not be unusual, I just don't know. [I just know that for my projects, the crappy bits seem pretty uniform throughout the movement.] It just might be that this one has been through a long and extensive period of rehabilitation.

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Author:	chronomania [ Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:46 am ]
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Bill in Sacramento wrote: . . . page 27 of the Esembl-O-Graf Chronograph Watch Calibre Guide, which shows the "Breitling" signature of the sample Venus 179 image. For this serial number and reference number, I would expect a third button. I think the "dual-use" crowns came just a few years later, but not in 1945 and as shown in the 1946 catalog. I think this has a replacement rattrapante sweep second hand and a re-painted dial. I wonder if the 30-minute register really increments in 45-minutes, since that would be the 762 spec. This would be a good one to handle for inspection. Since the movement parts show a real difference in discoloration, I wonder what an experienced watchmaker like Craig makes of a bridge so much more oxidized/corroded than most of the other movement parts. That may not be unusual, I just don't know. [I just know that for my projects, the crappy bits seem pretty uniform throughout the movement.] It just might be that this one has been through a long and extensive period of rehabilitation. Hi Bill: Just curious which year is the Breitling Lounge catalogue from (it shows both "Dual Use" crowns and crown buttons)? http://www.i-am-spamming.de/x108-b ... -1264.html

Author:	Bill in Sacramento [ Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:25 am ]
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Just curious which year is the Breitling Lounge catalogue from (it shows both "Dual Use" crowns and crown buttons)? That is the page from the 1946 catalog (re-printed by Historymania in Pennsylvania) and you may be right that there are dual-use crowns in some of those models . I was looking at the square-pusher 762 and 783 with what must be the Venus 179 movement.

Author:	chronomania [ Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 1945 Breitling Duograph Rattrapante
Are there any sources for each years' catalogues? I would be interested in seeing 1947. Was there one published for that year (or even 1945)? Thanks....

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