Hello everybody , need help
to identify this vintage 
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all the components are here but cannot be presented , the pics exceeds the allowed space
thanks for your time ,
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| Author: | rEbel49 [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | is this one a genuine Premier ? |
Hello everybody , need help to identify this vintage : all the components are here but cannot be presented , the pics exceeds the allowed space thanks for your time , |
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| Author: | vintage [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
Fake. It looks to me like the Breitling on the dial has been carefully added to an otherwise vintage dial. The case is all wrong including the Breitling engraving inside the case back. The Venus 188 movement is a later movement and wouldn't have been found in this style watch from the 1940's and has had the Breitling added to the bridge. Best leave this one to someone else. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
Can't add anything to that - stay well away. |
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| Author: | rEbel49 [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
Roffensian wrote: Can't add anything to that - stay well away. ... thanks a lot for this precious infos , is hard to buy a Breitling in this days ; this watch was offered for sale and your kindness helped me to save some money ... but not for long time . Bests to all , |
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| Author: | jlee5050 [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
I'm guessing that art deco font on the dial has been used by other manufacturers too? First flag for me was redial too, but to think it was the script ADDED onto the dial instead of an original dial redone... interesting... never thought of that... 
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| Author: | rEbel49 [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
jlee5050 wrote: I'm guessing that art deco font on the dial has been used by other manufacturers too? First flag for me was redial too, but to think it was the script ADDED onto the dial instead of an original dial redone... interesting... never thought of that... is hard to imagine how this dial has been < falsified > ... the surface is protected by clear varnish and the edge are not perfect , it looks vintage - take a look please : 
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| Author: | jlee5050 [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: is this one a genuine Premier ? |
Hard to imagine, but very possible. Can't comment on the varnish or in terms of the edges as you mentioned, but someone could've found a dial that RESEMBLED a Premier dial and made it so it looks like one just by adding the "Breitling" script and "Premier"... Like I said, I've seen the art deco font on authentic Premiers but I've never seen it on other brands... It's either that or an original Premier dial but too badly damaged/aged so it was redone/repainted (whatever you want to call it). Not a good job either way, but redone dials never end up great anyway. |
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