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Author:  vintage [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:17 am ]
Post subject:  Expensive Fake up for auction?

Evidently there's a big auction going on in Mannhein, Germany this weekend, http://www.uhren-muser.de. Going through the listings I find this one (Lot Nr 173). The back cover looks a little suspicious to me. Note the ROP export code on the balance. I believe that's for a Rodania. Probably still an expensive watch but I don't think it ever started life as a Breitling. I used to live down the road from Mannheim a few miles in Kaiserslautern. Wish I was still there so I could go look for myself. :)

Breitling à Genève, Geh. Nr. 130001, 37 mm, circa 1969


Hochfeine Herrenarmbanduhr mit Schleppzeigerchronograph, Datum und Mondphase

Geh.: 18Kt Roségold, Druckboden. Ziffbl.: zweifarbig versilbert, aufgelegte Goldindizes, kleine Sekunde, 12h-Zähler, 30 Min.-Zähler, Datum- und Mondphasenanzeige, gebläute Spade-Zeiger. Werk: Brückenwerk, rhodiniert, geschliffen, polierte Schrauben, feinst geschliffene Chronographen-Stahlteile, Schaltrad, scherenförmige Doppelzeigerzange mit separatem Schaltrad für Doppelchronograph, monometallische Schraubenunruh, gebläute Unruhspirale, Incabloc Stoßsicherung für Unruh.


A gentleman's very fine wristwatch with split seconds chronograph, date and moon phase

Case: 18k rose gold, push back. Dial: two-tone silvered, applied gold indexes, auxiliary seconds, 12h counter, 30 min. counter, date- and moon phase indication, blued spade hands. Movm.: bridge movement, rhodium-plated, ground, polished screws, very finely ground chronograph steel parts, ratchet wheel, scissor-shaped double hand tongs with separate ratchet wheel for double chronograph, monometallic screw balance, blued balance spring, incabloc shock protection for balance.

31396 G/C: 2 Z/D: 2 W/M: 2, 8, 41, 51

15.000 - 20.000 EUR 19.700 - 26.200 USD

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Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Expensive Fake up for auction?

My reference has ROP as both Rodania and something stated as "zone - xW. Fy." No idea what the heck that is, but I agree, this isn't a Breitling. Yet again the script and print Breitling logos on the same watch, the moonphase is not particularly Breitling like, and it doesn't look like a Breitling case. Serial number is obviously also inconsistent. A real shame because as a Rodania this would have been an absolutely gorgeous watch in either fantastic condition or with a great restoration.

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