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Hello there,

I am new to watches and generally clueless! but really liked the style....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWNX:IT

Any help much appreciated.

Phil

Would need to see photos of the caseback and movement, but it's either a redial or a fake, and likely both.

Thanks, any idea what model it may be trying to fake?

P

To find that out, a ref. number would come in handy.

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"I don't got the bright watch I got the right watch" -Jay Z

Don't bother...it's VERY fake.
Kind regards, Marco

Trawling through the clubisrael archives, the closest thing I can find is a ref.124?

Cheers
Phil

Also, what makes it obviously fake, rather than a redial...

Thanks

P

Here is picture of the back face, I should have a picture of the movement tonight...any advice on removing the back cover?

Many thanks

P

More evidence that it's not real - script Breitling on the dial, print Breitling on the caseback - that just wouldn't happen. Don't recall a 503 (there was a 4503 and 8503), but don't have the books to hand at work.

It'll be a snap on caseback, a thin blade between caseback and case will pry it off - just be careful not to damage the movement with the blade.

See attached movement pics.

The inside of the back is also hand signed (very very faintly) "ORC 552" and "XT1149"

Is this a total fake?

Cheers

Phil

The caseback markings are watchmaker marks. There's no serial number which is another condemnation, and while it's not that clear, the Breitling on the movement doesn't look original either - total fake for me.

On the picture: another marriage, fake, whatever you want to call it, just don't buy it....
On the left is Phil's picture, right is the one sold on Ebay.

This seller advertised on ebay with a dresswatch, ref. 190_10. Which, according to the Benno Richter list, doesn't exist.
He calls this movement AS 1758, which was never used by Breitling. (it does look like an AS 1758, mostly.)
I think Breitling never had these, how do you say, "guilded" movements.
3 x NO ! and i pass....

The most important thing for Phil is though: IF i'm correct and it is also Anton Schild 1758, AND it is a ref. 503 which is not in Benno's list:
like Roff said: total fake.

Kind regards, Marco

Many thanks guys, I have returned the watch for a refund citing this evidence and the opinion of a local watchmaker.

Next time i'll do the sensible thing and post before I buy....

P

UPDATE:

For your interest: See below reply from Breitling UK

Dear Phil

Thank you for your e-mail. Please accept my apologies for the delay in my reply, we have been experiencing problems with our internet access.

The After-Sales Service Director has examined the photographs you have sent and has confirmed that this does appear to be a genuine Breitling watch. Unfortunately we do not hold any photographs of this watch.

If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Kindest regards

Samantha Towner

Customer Service Advisor

BREITLING UK & EIRE

Any thoughts?

You have to understand that the Breitling now and Breitling then is not the same company... notice that they said they don't have any pictures... I'm assuming this goes for any references to their past pieces...

It's your watch, and your money, but I've been here on this board long enough to know that the dial alone raises a red flag... I personally wouldn't touch it...

just my .02.

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"I don't got the bright watch I got the right watch" -Jay Z