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Author:  turboslippers [ Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Help for a Newbie - no idea what to make of this
Evening (or morning or afternoon). Very informative site and will probably put me on the slippery slope but c'est la vie!

I've toyed with the idea of getting a Navitimer and I've kept an eye on some of the older models which, whilst not always mint, have a certain character about them

Then, I spotted this on ebay. I assume this is a fake as there are a lot of references to moody watches coming out of South America. What I am more interested in is, what model is this based on if a fake? As a dress watch i think it's extremely elegant but can't believe that any 50's Breitling in good condition is going to be anything less than many thousands of pounds?

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regards
Ben
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help for a Newbie - no idea what to make of this
It's claiming to be a Breitling 1352, which is a round watch with small seconds and an 18k case. This one's claiming to be 1956.

I'm not sure why it went this high - gold I guess, but you can find good quality SS Breitling dress watches of this era for well under $1,000.

This one is wrong - the dial is an obvious redial and a Breitling gold case watch has a gold caseabck - SS was only used on rolled gold / gold filled or gold plated pieces.
Author:  turboslippers [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help for a Newbie - no idea what to make of this
Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated.
Any simple reason why vintage Breitlings of this type don't fetch 'much' money? Is it because it's a relatively simple watch? Either way, that's good for me as can keep an eye out for this type!
So you think this was a particular case with maybe a substituted Breitling mechanism, substituted dial and replacement caseback? Not really original is it but not a fake at the same time?

regards
Ben
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help for a Newbie - no idea what to make of this
turboslippers wrote:
Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated.
Any simple reason why vintage Breitlings of this type don't fetch 'much' money? Is it because it's a relatively simple watch? Either way, that's good for me as can keep an eye out for this type!
So you think this was a particular case with maybe a substituted Breitling mechanism, substituted dial and replacement caseback? Not really original is it but not a fake at the same time?

regards
Ben




I'm not sure what to make of it to be honest - the caseback doesn't look bad, but it's not gold which is wrong for the model number - weird. The dial is definitely wrong, not sure on the movement, would need better shots. My guess is 'frankenwatch' made up of bits of a number of watches rather than outright fake.

In terms of prices - like everything else it's about what the market is prepared to pay. Breitling is known as a chronograph producer so the dress watches are less popular, they also aren't overly rare (although there are a lot of fakes / frankenwatches) and they aren't particularly special or unique pieces in most cases - generally Felsa movements.

Also remember that a good Navitimer 806 can go for only $3,000 or so and a rare rattrapante may well be below $10,000 - these just aren't seen in the same way as a Rolex.
Author:  mhoutgraaf [ Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help for a Newbie - no idea what to make of this
I have watched and stored EVERY Breitling dresswatch (1 crown) picture, price and seller over the last 3 years (nearly 4 now) on Ebay and some classified ad sites in Netherlands and Germany and Austria. I have NEVER seen a real Breitling dresswatch from South America. You can draw your own conclusions...
Kind regards, Marco
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