12 hours counter of 1938: I dont know, its real or fake ?
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| Author: | Yaffle [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ebauches SA article |
In a previous discussion about Venus and Valjoux movements, it was pointed out that both were owned by "Ebauches SA" -- thanks Roff. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15761&start=45 I found an interesting article covering the history of this company. http://www.watchtime.com/print-archive/ In the keyword search put - ebauches sa The article is called "WT_2006_06:History of ETA". The watchtime databse has a lot of articles available for download and seem to be one of the few magazines who spend time on vintage watches. Other articles of interest -- WT_2004_03: VALJOUX CHRONOGRAPH CALIBERS WT_2006_02: THE HISTORY OF THE CHRONOGRAPH The last article by Gisbert Brunner contains the tantalising line: "The first patents for an hour-counter mechanism date from the year 1892, but the problem had only been theoretically conquered. No tangible incarnation of a functional mechanism appeared until 1937, when Universal Genève was granted a patent (no. 1089191) on the corresponding technical solution. Breitling launched a model with a 12- hour counter on the basis of a Valjoux movement blank in 1938. Other watch manufacturers followed suit in subsequent years." |
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ebauches SA article |
12 hours counter of 1938: I dont know, its real or fake ?
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ebauches SA article |
And here another early Breitling 12 hours counter:     I just noticed it is almost the same as that: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16359 too many coincidences !! But everybody only fakes it, because Bill has it not in his books  
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| Author: | breitlingmuseum [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ebauches SA article |
I have real hundreds of 12 counter Breitlings, but my first with Venus 152/178 is from 1945, all without incabloc, my first with incabloc is from 1951 . (my first Breitling chronograph off all with incabloc is from 1945, but I have also a lot Chronomats Venus 175 from 1945/46/47 witout incablock) For me it seems, was more highly developed the movement, the later Breitling has used incabloc. Logically, would be actually the opposite. Who can explain it.      
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