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Author: | Tri-national-man [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
WatchFred wrote: yes, it is - just noteworthy. There is so little info on this particular model out there..Please can you point me in the right direction so that I may research my fabulous new watch more |
Author: | Mortys [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Here you can find a lot of info. Research done by Dracha http://www.vintage-breitling.com/?page_id=134 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | arcadelt [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Tri-national-man wrote: There is so little info on this particular model out there..Please can you point me in the right direction so that I may research my fabulous new watch more Did you read this? https://monochrome-watches.com/breitling-765-avico-pilot-series-watches-part/ It has three parts. |
Author: | arcadelt [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Or this? |
Author: | Tri-national-man [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
arcadelt wrote: Or this? Yep, have digested all that info,thanks guys..I have Beno Richter’s book on Breitling too, but not much info on AVIs.. |
Author: | Mortys [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Then maybe a good reason to start your own research? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | Tri-national-man [ Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
..The research started last week..What I have found is that this model is pretty rare and there are very few around.. |
Author: | Mortys [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Have you found out in what serial number range? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | Tri-national-man [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
Conclusive proof that the “Raquel Welch” AVI had a steel bezel.. Mine is serial range 101 https://ibb.co/jJKY73G https://ibb.co/TT8dV1p |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
there was never a doubt about that? the question we are discussing here is the big sub dial on a Raquel |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
we have „transitions“ of dials, movements, cases, bezels. all are different between „pure“ Raquel and JCK |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
these transitions happen with every model change, Navitimers, Toptimes, SuperOceans - and, of course, Copilots. |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
so, without going into several sub-executions: 1953-1961: Mk1, 765AVI allblack dial and beaded steel, aka Lucy, both analog and digital minute counters 1962-1965: Mk2, 765AVI panda and steel, “small” panda, aka Raquel 1965-1968: Mk3, 765CP panda and black alu, “bigeye” panda, aka Jean-Claude Killy 1969: Mk: Mk4, 7650 panda and black alu, “fat case” note the movement function changes with the JCK too, minute subdial advance after 30 seconds. there are transitions between these, as there was no “cut” between the executions, parts were used as long as they were available in the parts bins, no strict fifo on cases - but if u have a bigeye dial on a 1963 Raquel, it is incorrect; on a 1965, the same year the new execution was launched, it can be expected on some watches. |
Author: | arcadelt [ Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
WatchFred wrote: so, without going into several sub-executions: 1953-1961: Mk1, 765AVI allblack dial and beaded steel, aka Lucy, both analog and digital minute counters 1962-1965: Mk2, 765AVI panda and steel, “small” panda, aka Raquel 1965-1968: Mk3, 765CP panda and black alu, “bigeye” panda, aka Jean-Claude Killy 1969: Mk: Mk4, 7650 panda and black alu, “fat case” note the movement function changes with the JCK too, minute subdial advance after 30 seconds. there are transitions between these, as there was no “cut” between the executions, parts were used as long as they were available in the parts bins, no strict fifo on cases - but if u have a bigeye dial on a 1963 Raquel, it is incorrect; on a 1965, the same year the new execution was launched, it can be expected on some watches. A nice summary @WatchFred. I know you weren’t going into sub executions, but I wonder if you might conjecture where fully numbered (1, 2, 3, 4, 5...) milled edge steel bezels changed to partially numbered (|, 2, |, 3, |...) on the Mk2. For example, based on what you have written above about transition, is there a mismatch between the bezel and dial on this one from 1964? |
Author: | Dracha [ Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 765 AVI offered to me.. Good deal or not? |
WatchFred wrote: 1962-1965: Mk2, 765AVI panda and steel, “small” panda, aka Raquel 62/63(64?) “small” panda 64/65 "large" panda ? 65/67 . "JCK" thats somehow in my head , will revisit when I get back but afaik the large subs were introduced in 63/64 and then carried over to JCK ? |
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