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Yes, I'm into hunting and sport shooting. But, I'm more into rifle/big game hunting. For wing shooting which for me consists of white-wing dove and quail with a splash of pheasant, I prefer the Benelli Montrefeltro 12-ga. It will do it all. In rifles, I like Sako. Now these aren't the "fine European" made sort of doubles you're probably talking about. For us Americans shotguns are mostly auto-loading and rifles are bolt-action. Hunting is mostly done in very wide open spaces and longer ranges.

What comprises a Double Woodcock? Is it like hat trick in hockey, but with birds?

Not a lot of hunters I guess! :oops:

The question I have as a part-time fair weather hunter is what watch are you wearing in the field/water?

I have never worn a watch while hunting, but that was prior to catching the bug.

Nice to meet you!

I'm quite new to the shooting world. I got into it through my girlfriend and her father, who are both very good shots. We're based in Wiltshire/Hampshire.

I first fired a shot about two years ago and tagged along to the clay ground now and then, but have been regularly shooting clays for just under a year. I bought my gun, a Browning 525 Advance Sporter in June this year and I love it. It needs some adjustment though, as I'm very tall with long arms. I'm going to wait until my mount is good (shooting gun-up is something of a no-no in this household) until I get it professionally fitted. Until then it's just leather stock extension.

Sue, my girlfriend, is an excellent clay shot and likes her driven pheasant. She managed to bag a brace of woodcock in a day last year; not bad for a pheasant drive (at different times though, so not a double). We're not exactly minted but she and her dad have a handful of days booked in Wales this year. I'll be beating; I don't feel skilled enough to get my money's worth on a shoot yet, so it'll just be the beaters day for me until next season.

Browning 525 is a lovely gun to shoot with. I have a Bettinsoli for Stormy duck nights and the slays. Beratta Silver Pigeon V is my field choice along a with a 1927 William Evans S/S which I adore, still working as good as the day it was picked up by a colonel in the Army. London gun making at its best even though this particular gun is the entry level utility shotgun. Its testament to British gun making that it is still fully functional after that long, granted it was never abused.
Along with my WC double! I am hoping to make it to the UK for a few days shooting. Probably not this year with the way things are! The quality of shoot days in the UK are far superior that here not to mention ALOT cheaper.
Good luck in your season and be safe.
Breanach78

Churchill XXV side lock ejector

Author:	breanach78 [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:09 pm ]
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At this time of year there is only one thing on my mind, the forthcoming shooting season.. 1st September for Duck and the cracking Snipe here, but it really kicks off later in the season when the weather get cold and the illusive woodcock arrives for its winter visit. Along with a love, respect and appreciation for hunting I think the same sentiments go for fine guns. So been on B.S. for a while now I was wondering ,I guess like a appreciation for nice/fine watches, any fans fine guns/hunting here, as the forum is truly world wide? and if so has any one here hit a elusive double woodcock? So I am looking forward to, firstly and most importantly a safe season, but also a productive season with a full bag and hopefully a Double. If not I intend to have fun trying... Regards

Author:	akguppy [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:02 pm ]
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Yes, I'm into hunting and sport shooting. But, I'm more into rifle/big game hunting. For wing shooting which for me consists of white-wing dove and quail with a splash of pheasant, I prefer the Benelli Montrefeltro 12-ga. It will do it all. In rifles, I like Sako. Now these aren't the "fine European" made sort of doubles you're probably talking about. For us Americans shotguns are mostly auto-loading and rifles are bolt-action. Hunting is mostly done in very wide open spaces and longer ranges.

Author:	breanach78 [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:54 pm ]
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akguppy wrote: Yes, I'm into hunting and sport shooting. But, I'm more into rifle/big game hunting. For wing shooting which for me consists of white-wing dove and quail with a splash of pheasant, I prefer the Benelli Montrefeltro 12-ga. It will do it all. In rifles, I like Sako. Now these aren't the "fine European" made sort of doubles you're probably talking about. For us Americans shotguns are mostly auto-loading and rifles are bolt-action. Hunting is mostly done in very wide open spaces and longer ranges. Ya nice to get a insight to other Hunter's ways. Tried my hand at rifle shooting before but found not for me... although I do occasionally go deer stalking with a friend. I knew the states was big into Autos, there are only about as common as 1 in 25 around here... always found yer remington ammunition the best for under/over. Maybe this will be my year for the double woodcock.. Here's to a great and Safe season to you and all. Regards..

Author:	Iantheklutz [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:30 am ]
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What comprises a Double Woodcock? Is it like hat trick in hockey, but with birds?

Author:	breanach78 [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:55 am ]
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Iantheklutz wrote: What comprises a Double Woodcock? Is it like hat trick in hockey, but with birds? "The privilege of membership is through the achievement of shooting a right-and-left at woodcock before two witnesses. Note that a gun must not be lowered between shots. " In the UK and Ireland Woodcock is hunted in the winter months. Finding good numbers of woodcock is hard enough not to mention being able to shoot one or even shoot the elusive double shot. There are very elusive bird so shooting two in flight, both have to be in the air and you must not lower your gun between shots, is extremely rare. The term right and left woodcock comes from your two barrels, right barrel/left barrel as in a side by side shot gun as in your right and then your left barrel been used to down two birds or in other words a double woodcock. I am relatively new to shooting(5 years) and have not had any real chances yet! I have two old friends one 55years shooting who shot a double some time ago but could not fine the second bird so he did not count it! the other is shooting 40 years, had lots of chances but never hit a double! There is a woodcock club in the UK for people who shoot the double. I believe it is the 15Th hardest club to become a member of in the UK! and I think I read some where that only 40 doubles were shot I the UK last Year!! Upon achieving the Right/left or double(Witnessed) you can apply to get membership of the Woodcock club. When accepted to the club you get a pin for your shooting jacket, A bottle for fine whiskey and a invite to a Dinner/ball in the UK Ill tell you all about it at the end of the season when I get back from there!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya right.. Hope this explains it. Check out the link below to read more... http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/woodcock ... _Club.html

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Author:	breanach78 [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:52 pm ]
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Not a lot of hunters I guess!

Author:	sharkman [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:25 pm ]
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breanach78 wrote: Not a lot of hunters I guess! Try to understand that here in the States both syllables of "woodcock" are synomyms for something very precious to most of us. So when you go on about shooting them and hoping to get 2 at once no less- some may get a tad nervous. Seriously, good luck with your quest.

Author:	thomasenlow1 [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:37 pm ]
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The question I have as a part-time fair weather hunter is what watch are you wearing in the field/water? I have never worn a watch while hunting, but that was prior to catching the bug.

Author:	breanach78 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:04 am ]
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thomasenlow1 wrote: The question I have as a part-time fair weather hunter is what watch are you wearing in the field/water? I have never worn a watch while hunting, but that was prior to catching the bug. None when ever I clay shoot..... Old Raymond Weil W1 chrono when in the feild. I feel any B even a "day to day" B would be to good not to mension expensive for me to risk the hazzards of out in the feild...

Author:	the_old_curmudgeon [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:47 pm ]
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akguppy wrote: Yes, I'm into hunting and sport shooting. But, I'm more into rifle/big game hunting. For wing shooting which for me consists of white-wing dove and quail with a splash of pheasant, I prefer the Benelli Montrefeltro 12-ga. It will do it all. In rifles, I like Sako. Now these aren't the "fine European" made sort of doubles you're probably talking about. For us Americans shotguns are mostly auto-loading and rifles are bolt-action. Hunting is mostly done in very wide open spaces and longer ranges. Hunting deer or black bear in northern New England with a bolt action rifle will likely subject you to occasional good-natured kidding from other hunters, lever actions and semis are more the norm. Even when hunting moose 100 yds in this part of the US is a long shot. The attitudes toward access on private property differ than in some other areas of the country, the prevailing philosophy is that the public is generally free to hunt on land not explicitly posted as long as all laws are obeyed and both common sense and courtesy shown toward the landowner, their property, and other hunters. When in the woods a watch is pretty much mandatory unless you want to risk explaining to a game warden why you were shooting before or after legal hunting hours or find the idea of making your way out in the dark somehow appealing. I've occasionally worn one of my Rolex' but usually I wear one of my beater watches, I once had a band break on one of my Seikos in the woods (happily I retraced my steps and found it about a half hour later) and wouldn't want to risk having that happen to one of my better watches, nor would I really want to get one of my better watches dirty while cleaning an animal out.

Author:	Mellow Yellow [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:18 am ]
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Nice to meet you! I'm quite new to the shooting world. I got into it through my girlfriend and her father, who are both very good shots. We're based in Wiltshire/Hampshire. I first fired a shot about two years ago and tagged along to the clay ground now and then, but have been regularly shooting clays for just under a year. I bought my gun, a Browning 525 Advance Sporter in June this year and I love it. It needs some adjustment though, as I'm very tall with long arms. I'm going to wait until my mount is good (shooting gun-up is something of a no-no in this household) until I get it professionally fitted. Until then it's just leather stock extension. Sue, my girlfriend, is an excellent clay shot and likes her driven pheasant. She managed to bag a brace of woodcock in a day last year; not bad for a pheasant drive (at different times though, so not a double). We're not exactly minted but she and her dad have a handful of days booked in Wales this year. I'll be beating; I don't feel skilled enough to get my money's worth on a shoot yet, so it'll just be the beaters day for me until next season.

Author:	breanach78 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:44 am ]
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Mellow Yellow wrote: Nice to meet you! I'm quite new to the shooting world. I got into it through my girlfriend and her father, who are both very good shots. We're based in Wiltshire/Hampshire. I first fired a shot about two years ago and tagged along to the clay ground now and then, but have been regularly shooting clays for just under a year. I bought my gun, a Browning 525 Advance Sporter in June this year and I love it. It needs some adjustment though, as I'm very tall with long arms. I'm going to wait until my mount is good (shooting gun-up is something of a no-no in this household) until I get it professionally fitted. Until then it's just leather stock extension. Sue, my girlfriend, is an excellent clay shot and likes her driven pheasant. She managed to bag a brace of woodcock in a day last year; not bad for a pheasant drive (at different times though, so not a double). We're not exactly minted but she and her dad have a handful of days booked in Wales this year. I'll be beating; I don't feel skilled enough to get my money's worth on a shoot yet, so it'll just be the beaters day for me until next season. Browning 525 is a lovely gun to shoot with. I have a Bettinsoli for Stormy duck nights and the slays. Beratta Silver Pigeon V is my field choice along a with a 1927 William Evans S/S which I adore, still working as good as the day it was picked up by a colonel in the Army. London gun making at its best even though this particular gun is the entry level utility shotgun. Its testament to British gun making that it is still fully functional after that long, granted it was never abused. Along with my WC double! I am hoping to make it to the UK for a few days shooting. Probably not this year with the way things are! The quality of shoot days in the UK are far superior that here not to mention ALOT cheaper. Good luck in your season and be safe. Breanach78

Author:	Mellow Yellow [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:42 am ]
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breanach78 wrote: Browning 525 is a lovely gun to shoot with. I have a Bettinsoli for Stormy duck nights and the slays. Beratta Silver Pigeon V is my field choice along a with a 1927 William Evans S/S which I adore, still working as good as the day it was picked up by a colonel in the Army. London gun making at its best even though this particular gun is the entry level utility shotgun. Its testament to British gun making that it is still fully functional after that long, granted it was never abused. Along with my WC double! I am hoping to make it to the UK for a few days shooting. Probably not this year with the way things are! The quality of shoot days in the UK are far superior that here not to mention ALOT cheaper. Good luck in your season and be safe. Breanach78 The girlfriend shoots a Silver Pigeon (not a V though)- Frankly I can't imagine anything cooler than a pre-war London S/S, and the history behind it makes it even better. What a wonderful gun! We do have some great shooting here. For good value and high birds I can heartily recommend Wales. Best of luck to you too. Looking forward to seeing your pin-feathers!

Author:	Dr Phil [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:21 pm ]
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I have shot a lot over the years. In England hunting involves putting on a red coat, riding a horse and chasing a fox. Actually can one still do that? What the Americans call hunting is what we call shooting. Usually preceeded by the prey, ie Pheasant Shooting, Duck Shootling, Grouse Shooting even Clay Pigeon shooting. You get the picture. Anyway back to the theme. Woodcock are solitary birds and to shoot two with two barrels without reloading is a rare feat. This is a left and right. The Shooting times, a UK field and game magazine, used to give a bottle of something if you shot a witnessed left and right woodcock. I don't know if they still do. I have shot lots of woodcock but never a left and right. I sold my guns when I left the UK 12 years ago. My best was a Churchill XXV side lock ejector plus a few others. As I said on the English watches thread, English guns are reputed to be the best in the world. Starting on the Glorious 12th (August) with Grouse and then September for the rest as stated above. I lived in the South of England from 1977 but grew up in the North West of England where wild fowl shooting is king! I don't shoot at all now as Singapore does not allow it. There is a clay club but not very convenient. I have enjoyed writing this! Thanks for jogging the memory.

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Author:	breanach78 [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:30 am ]
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Quote: Churchill XXV side lock ejector Nice Gun. Thanks for sharing! Like you say English guns are the best in the world.. With the price to match... I think the woodcock club is still going and I hope to be in it some day.