I choose the Bentley over the Navi anytime
no questions asked
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| Author: | cRaSiAn1030 [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
What's the difference between the two? They look pretty much the same, the dial that is, the case and back are differnt obviously, but besides that, is there really anything that sets them apart? The Bentley ones are more expensive too, so is there some special feature to them? Thanks, cRaSiAn1030 |
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| Author: | RJRJRJ [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
Less dressy, bigger, better finish (according to some), higher water resistance, unique movements in some, etc. |
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| Author: | cRaSiAn1030 [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
Those are the Bentley ones you're talking about? |
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| Author: | kstone [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
Yes, he is referring to the Bentley's. |
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| Author: | kstone [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
I agree, there are a lot of similarities between the Navis and the Serie Motors Bentleys. I just bought a Navi World, and looked at the Bentley's quite a bit before making my final decision. I really like the look of the machined bezels on the various models in the Serie Motors, but in the end, size became a factor. As big as the Navi World is, the Bentley's are all larger. For me personally, I thought I was pushing it with the Navi World. The Bentley's would have just been too big. |
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| Author: | krlyuzh [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
kstone wrote: I agree, there are a lot of similarities between the Navis and the Serie Motors Bentleys. I just bought a Navi World, and looked at the Bentley's quite a bit before making my final decision. I really like the look of the machined bezels on the various models in the Serie Motors, but in the end, size became a factor. As big as the Navi World is, the Bentley's are all larger. For me personally, I thought I was pushing it with the Navi World. The Bentley's would have just been too big. Not necesaarily all. The motors/t/6.75 are all bigger than navi world, however the GT/ GT racing and Marks are all smaller. I personally do not see many similarities between the series. One is dedicated to an automobile, other is to flying. The navi world's subdial positioning is different from bentley's. Case sizes, shapes, finishes are different along with bezels. Gt models are unique by the colors on dials which match the exact colors of the car. Navitimers are classic while the bentleys are contemporary. I personally dont see many similarities besides that they are made by Breitling. A sumbariner and a sea-dweller look similar, a pam005 and pam111 look similar, a Chroni Cockpit looka similar to an Evo, but not navi vs bentley |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
I can't agree that the two ranges look the same, but each to their own I guess. Most of the differences of dressy vs. tool, water resistance etc have been covered. There is absolutely no way that you can (accurately) say that the Bentleys are bigger. Biggest watch in the range is the Chronomatic 49 - a Navitimer, and my Complications 19 is smaller than most Navis. The biggest difference though is in the way that the watches are designed. The build quality on both are excellent - they are all Breitlings after all, but the Bentleys are designed in a more modular way - many, many more piececs to make up the case for example. This allows for simpler machining of individual pieces and hence closer tolerances. It also means that it's easier (and cheaper) to replace certain parts if they break. In terms of the movement, the differences are largely cosmetic. |
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| Author: | Spartan [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
I choose the Bentley over the Navi anytime no questions asked
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| Author: | Carlos [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
It’s an interesting point. I was initially attracted to Breitling because of the Navitimer range – the contrasting sub-dials with the cool slide rule. I eventually tried on a Chronomatic (the 44mm reissue), and preferred the case shape and bigger size. Then, on glorious day, I discovered my Bentley GT, and it was all over – I had found the one for me. The quality of all Breitlings is awesome, but the Bentlies are perhaps a notch above. I’ve noticed a similar thing with Rolex Subs vs Daytonas – just a slight degree of increased finesse – as reflected in the price difference (functionality aside). I’ve always felt the GT is a natural extension of the Chronomatic design – with the contrasting sub-dials and size. Front on the case shape is very similar, with the main difference not apparent until one views the profile – the Bentlies seem to have an almost art deco/Gotham City type of curve…if that makes any sense! Indeed, I wouldn’t be surprised if the GT existed on the drawing boards before the Motors – if you replaced the knurled bezel of the GT with a black insert, it would seem a natural modern Chronomatic which takes advantage of the 7750 with day/date…perhaps later on Breitling decided to increase the size, remove the contrasting sub-dials and use a 30 second chrono to distinguish the Bentley series…just a thought. |
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| Author: | kstone [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
My comments were focused on the Serie Motors models, not the Seri Mark Vi models, and certainly the the Flying B models. My apologies if that wasn't more clear. And I was focused on the forest, not the trees. Absolutely there are numerous differences between the Serie Motors Bentleys and the Navis - complications, dial design, subdial positioning, etc. And yes, the way they are marketed. But to me (and I am sure that you will all think that I am crazy), when I look at the various models in the Serie Motors, they remind me of the Navitimer. Yes - obviously they are not identical. Yes - obviously they are different. But, to me, when I put a picture of a Navi next to a Serie Motors model, it's as if when they designed the Serie Motors models, they started with the Navitimer as a "base", and then "beefed" it up. I was certainly incorrect in my statement about the sizes of the Serie Motors compared to the Navi World. The GT and GT Racing are certainly smaller. 
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| Author: | MarkJnk [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
I'm reading this with interest also, as I have wondered if the Bentley series watches, specifically the Motors and GT had any "extra" features, quality or materials that accounted for the higher cost. I have a Bentley Motors with Copper dial, which I bought purely due to it being the most attractive watch I've ever laid eyes on. I never could find anything tangible to justify the extra cost. I've also owned CSO's, CA, Evo's, etc and all are built with equal attention to detail, and finishing which varies amongst models, is always fantastic. So I'm reading with interest to see if there is anything under the hood that makes my Motors cost more other than the word "Bentley" on the dial. |
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| Author: | RJRJRJ [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
Another thing ive noticed, with the GT at least, is that the case is remarkably thin compared to some of divers we're used to. |
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| Author: | davem [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
Roffensian wrote: There is absolutely no way that you can (accurately) say that the Bentleys are bigger. Biggest watch in the range is the Chronomatic 49 - The GMT is as large,and Bentleys in general are larger. As for looks and finish?,no comparison...  
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| Author: | cRaSiAn1030 [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
wow, nice pictures. Ya, the size, I know Roff said there was no way to say they were always bigger, but I did some "homework" and they are considerably bigger, well most of them at least. They do have smaller models (still referring the Bentleys) and those are around 43 mm and go up from there (I think...) |
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| Author: | MarkJnk [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer line V. breitling for Bentley |
When I first saw pics of the Bentley, I was less than impressed, but the more I see it the more I like it! Beautiful pics. Now for the sake of this discussion, when you refer to the finish and say "no comparison", what do you mean? Is the finish really any better than an Evo for example? Or is it just the design that sets it apart? On my Motors, I can't say the finsih is superior to my EVO imho. Does anyone know if the Bentley movements are decorated more or of a higher grade? |
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