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Author:  MarkJnk [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
Just a quick report, I had read that the cal 39 used in my Hercules was an exceptionally accurate movement. My used Herc, after wearing it for 24hrs, and using the chrono off and on several times, is running exactly +0, so I can concur, this movement is a very solid accurate unit.

I understand this movement is a 2892-A2 base, does anyone know who makes the chrono module? Is it a Dubois Depraz or Breitling in-house?

Mark
Author:  carlhaluss [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
I'm not very familiar with details of movements, but I don't believe that Breitling make any movements in-house. They are brought in and then modified by them.
By the way, I have to comment on your great logo in the signature bar! That too me is an outstanding and very artistic piece of work! I used to have one as well, not that I designed the graphics, but put the thing together myself. You have given me the inspiration to start the task of designing a new one for myself!
Cheers,
Carl
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
The chrono modules for all ETA2892-A2s used by Breitling are Dubois / Depraz as far as I know.

Incidentally, if Breitling are indeed going to in house movements as suggested in the other thread recently, don't be surprised if they still use Dubois / Depraz chrono modules. It will ultimately depend on whether Breitling go the integrated chrono route or the modular approach, but it would make a lot of sense for them (even though the rumoured first movement is the Chronomat which currently uses an integrated movement).
Author:  MarkJnk [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
Roffensian wrote:
The chrono modules for all ETA2892-A2s used by Breitling are Dubois / Depraz as far as I know.

Incidentally, if Breitling are indeed going to in house movements as suggested in the other thread recently, don't be surprised if they still use Dubois / Depraz chrono modules. It will ultimately depend on whether Breitling go the integrated chrono route or the modular approach, but it would make a lot of sense for them (even though the rumoured first movement is the Chronomat which currently uses an integrated movement).

Ive had several other D-D module movements (Bentley Motors, Doxa T-Graph, Tag Aquagraph) and none have been this accurate. There aren't alot of reviews for the Herc online, but just about every person that comments on the watch mentions the amazing accuacy. I wonder what makes this particular movement so accurate and resilient? (Still running spot on +/- 0 with chrono on about half the time).

It will be sad to see Breitling abandon the 7750 in the Chronomat (unless they simply clone it for their own use) because it has been a workhorse and is easy to have cleaned/repaired by any reputable watchmaker. It makes service down the road much less expensive and troublesome. 7750 has been one of my favorites with the jumping minute counter, and day/date.
Author:  MarkJnk [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
carlhaluss wrote:
I'm not very familiar with details of movements, but I don't believe that Breitling make any movements in-house. They are brought in and then modified by them.
By the way, I have to comment on your great logo in the signature bar! That too me is an outstanding and very artistic piece of work! I used to have one as well, not that I designed the graphics, but put the thing together myself. You have given me the inspiration to start the task of designing a new one for myself!
Cheers,
Carl


Thanks for the kind words. I'm a commercial artist and always like to personalize or attach a graphic to things, its a sickness us artists have :)
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
The chrono modules for all ETA2892-A2s used by Breitling are Dubois / Depraz as far as I know.

Incidentally, if Breitling are indeed going to in house movements as suggested in the other thread recently, don't be surprised if they still use Dubois / Depraz chrono modules. It will ultimately depend on whether Breitling go the integrated chrono route or the modular approach, but it would make a lot of sense for them (even though the rumoured first movement is the Chronomat which currently uses an integrated movement).

Ive had several other D-D module movements (Bentley Motors, Doxa T-Graph, Tag Aquagraph) and none have been this accurate. There aren't alot of reviews for the Herc online, but just about every person that comments on the watch mentions the amazing accuacy. I wonder what makes this particular movement so accurate and resilient? (Still running spot on +/- 0 with chrono on about half the time).

It will be sad to see Breitling abandon the 7750 in the Chronomat (unless they simply clone it for their own use) because it has been a workhorse and is easy to have cleaned/repaired by any reputable watchmaker. It makes service down the road much less expensive and troublesome. 7750 has been one of my favorites with the jumping minute counter, and day/date.


Of course every movement is different, and it may simply be that it was last regulated by someone who knows their work very well - either way it's great news that it is so accurate for you.

In terms of the 7750 - there won't be a Breitling clone - it will need to be different enough to not run into trademark issues, but the days of modified 7750s are coming to an end whatever happens - the only 7750s that are going to be available are the mass produced Valjouxs because that's the only way that they'll be sold.

I guess they call it progress!
Author:  MarkJnk [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.


Clearly something wrong - obviously needs a service :wink:
Author:  MarkJnk [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
Roffensian wrote:
MarkJnk wrote:
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.


Clearly something wrong - obviously needs a service :wink:


Nah, quartz service is too expensive. :wink:
Author:  RJRJRJ [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.


It may just be like my Skyland, which runs + 1 or 2 during the day while wearing it, and -1 or 2 while set down crystal down at night. I net almost +/- 0 since they just about offset each other.
Author:  MarkJnk [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
RJRJRJ wrote:
MarkJnk wrote:
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.


It may just be like my Skyland, which runs + 1 or 2 during the day while wearing it, and -1 or 2 while set down crystal down at night. I net almost +/- 0 since they just about offset each other.


Mine hasn't left my wrist since it arrived on Friday, including at night, and I have been playing with the chrono and letting it run probably half of the time. I'm truly amazed, this is officially my most accurate watch... I mean how can a watch be more accurate than +/-0! :bow: Based on the date code on the bracelet, this watch is from 2003.
Author:  chmre [ Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
RJRJRJ wrote:
MarkJnk wrote:
Are you kidding me??? Since setting the watch on Friday, today is Tuesday and it is still +/-0! I'm starting to thing someone stuck a quartz mov't into my Herc.


It may just be like my Skyland, which runs + 1 or 2 during the day while wearing it, and -1 or 2 while set down crystal down at night. I net almost +/- 0 since they just about offset each other.


Mine hasn't left my wrist since it arrived on Friday, including at night, and I have been playing with the chrono and letting it run probably half of the time. I'm truly amazed, this is officially my most accurate watch... I mean how can a watch be more accurate than +/-0! :bow: Based on the date code on the bracelet, this watch is from 2003.


Stop praising this watch so much. You make me want one even more. :wink:
Author:  MarkJnk [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
OK, so it's not perfect :( After 10 days, it is +1 (total) :bow:
Author:  bnewbie [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
OK, so it's not perfect :( After 10 days, it is +1 (total) :bow:

You can call that perfect.
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling Cal 39... accuracy as expected.
MarkJnk wrote:
OK, so it's not perfect :( After 10 days, it is +1 (total) :bow:


Told you it needed a service. :P
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