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A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
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Author:  Driver8 [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
As some of you may know, I occasionally like to play around with Photoshop and come up with "improvements" :wink: to watches, and occasionally new versions that I'd love to see made.

So here's my version of what would be my dream SuperOcean Heritage. :thumbsup:

I'm suggesting 42mm as that's right in the middle of my sweet-spot (although the existing 44mm case would work too), with the current ceramic bezel. B01 movement in the bi-compax layout to avoid my pet hate - the 4:30 date - and to keep the dial beautifully symmetrical. A flat black dial (no sunburst) with a gold "B" logo to add a little bit of colour, plus minimal text. I've also gone for Breitling's brown 'Drakkar' leather strap for a real vintage-vibe.

So Fred - any chance of convincing Breitling to make this one? Please, please, PLEASE! :wink: :D

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Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
promise it will be discussed!
Author:  Driver8 [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
WatchFred wrote:
promise it will be discussed!

:thumbsup: I can't ask for anything more than that Fred! That would be incredible! :bow:
Author:  Moana43 [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
Again, Driver, I'm loving your idea and execution.

But, to be fair, your version pretty much reflects the aesthetics of Schneider's original concept (with B01 movement and ceramic bezel added to the technical mix). When Kern's version of the SOH was introduced, my very first reaction (as I expressed here at the time) was that the bi-compax version should not have been abandoned -- not only because it was aesthetically pleasing, but also because it echoed the original bi-compax nature of Willy Breitling's creation.

To this day, I love this one...

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Author:  jnelson3097 [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
I’ve been thinking about trying that strap on my blue Superocean Heritage chrono to see how it looks but I can’t seem to take it off the blue rubber strap.
Author:  boogiebot [ Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
WatchFred wrote:
promise it will be discussed!
Any chance you can talk to the powers that be about making thinner watches that are 40-41 mm in case size ???


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Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
boogiebot wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
promise it will be discussed!
Any chance you can talk to the powers that be about making thinner watches that are 40-41 mm in case size ???


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there is a correlation between movement thickness, watch thickness & minimum watch diameter ;)

but in general: stay tuned
Author:  Driver8 [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
Moana43 wrote:
Again, Driver, I'm loving your idea and execution.

But, to be fair, your version pretty much reflects the aesthetics of Schneider's original concept (with B01 movement and ceramic bezel added to the technical mix). When Kern's version of the SOH was introduced, my very first reaction (as I expressed here at the time) was that the bi-compax version should not have been abandoned -- not only because it was aesthetically pleasing, but also because it echoed the original bi-compax nature of Willy Breitling's creation.

To this day, I love this one...

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Thanks for your kind words Jim - most appreciated. :thumbsup:

And you're absolutely correct that the Schneider era bi-compax SOC "inspired" my thinking (which was itself inspired by the vintage 807 from the late '50's of course), and I agree with you 100% that it was (and still is) by far and away the most aesthetically pleasing SOC to date in terms of dial layout in my opinion. If it was updated with the B01 and a ceramic bezel (like my concept) it would be the ultimate SuperOcean for me.
Author:  boogiebot [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
WatchFred wrote:
boogiebot wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
promise it will be discussed!
Any chance you can talk to the powers that be about making thinner watches that are 40-41 mm in case size ???


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there is a correlation between movement thickness, watch thickness & minimum watch diameter ;)

but in general: stay tuned
I totally get it. You know you guys have the knowledge and skill set at the factory to make thinner cases and shorter lug to lug length.


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Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
thinner cases > lower wp rating > social media and forum rants
life isn‘t always easy.
Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
lug length is (finally) a relevant design focus
Author:  boogiebot [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
WatchFred wrote:
thinner cases > lower wp rating > social media and forum rants
life isn‘t always easy.
Cmon bro, even the stupid Daytona or el primero has 10 atm WR or 100 m and they are around 12.5 mm thick. You guys can do the same stuff


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Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
yes, we can. „slim“ for me is 10mm and less.
Author:  boogiebot [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
WatchFred wrote:
the Premier has 10atm and is 12.5 ;)
yes, we can. „slim“ for me is 10mm and less.
10 mm would be super slim I agree on that. Honestly for sports watches anything from 12-13mm thick works well. Sports watches over that and with long lug to lug lengths alienates a good portion of the public that would be loyal buyer, In my opinion of course.

I can tell you, I have owned a few Breitlings:

Bentley motors t speed
Bentley motors
Bentley GT black
Bentley GT Ice
Super Avenger
Chronometer evo

The only one that’s left is the evo and that’s only for sentimental reasons. I have not been excited about Breitling for quite some time, that said I really feel with what’s going on in the watch market; you guys are poised to steal some market share from Omega and Rolex if you start making watches that fit more people.

Most of the watches you guys make are really too large for a lot of people. And you no longer have the hip hop community pursuing iced out breitlings as most of those guys have taken a step up to AP and PP.

I bet in Asia you guys struggle. Look at the size of the average mans wrist over there. I can say this cuz I’m Asian. We don’t have large wrists. We have large bank accounts.


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Author:  Moana43 [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Superocean Heritage Chronograph SE Concept Design
jnelson3097 wrote:
I’ve been thinking about trying that strap on my blue Superocean Heritage chrono to see how it looks but I can’t seem to take it off the blue rubber strap.


I think a camel croc would look killer with a blue dial! :wink:
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