and your theory is that this is a paid Breitling account?
let me assure you it isn’t.
admit the cynicism is sometimes tiring here.

and your theory is that this is a paid Breitling account?
let me assure you it isn’t.
admit the cynicism is sometimes tiring here.

Is it just me, or do you guys find it rather strange that we get such a shinning response from a new account in this forum. Dare I say it? Is this a shill posting?


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It took me a little while to work out that I think you are referring to my post.

Shill? definitely not, Fan Boy? Probably. Can you prove a negative - ie Im not a shill? Dont know how but for what its worth my post is actually something of a distillation of thoughts I had after putting together a series of videos I did on my youtube channel talking about Breitling. There was some discussion last year about them being lost and in all the G Kern talk I decided to pay some more attention. What I found was fascinating and took me from being slightly positive but unsure of Breitling to really embracing their new direction and their pre 2000 incarnation.

Cmon where is the video clip


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Sorry missed your question - assuming its ok to post live links to my own videos. Here we go:

Part 1 - youtubes problem with breitling
https://youtu.be/Ep19rA3zGQE

and
Part 2 - changes at breitling
https://youtu.be/gRkUEBPbiQI

and
Part 3 - The Watches
https://youtu.be/c9gXO8g4MRg

Sorry missed your question - assuming its ok to post live links to my own videos. Here we go:

Part 1 - youtubes problem with breitling
https://youtu.be/Ep19rA3zGQE

and
Part 2 - changes at breitling
https://youtu.be/gRkUEBPbiQI

and
Part 3 - The Watches
https://youtu.be/c9gXO8g4MRg

I've only had a chance to watch your first part, but you make some very good points, so I'll definitely watch the other two. Thanks for posting the links.

I came to Breitling in the middle of the Ernst Schneider era and was a fan of pretty much everything they produced for years on end, but they absolutely lost me for a number of years prior to the Kern/CVC takeover. You make a good point that some of the younger guys who only really know the (often highly polarising) Teddy Schneider era designs, will either love or absolutely hate the models (and by extension, the brand as a whole). In that regard, they aren't alone! I personally hated far more than I liked during the years prior to Georges, and it was only my long-standing love of the brand that kept me around.

I think Georges is doing a fine job at the moment bringing back a sense of respect for the heritage, sanity, and cohesion to the brand. Sure, I don't agree with absolutely everything - I'm not really a fan of the "squad" marketing stuff, and I would still prefer Breitling to remain a predominantly aviation-based brand (rather than surfing, and movie stars, and cycling, and motorbikes, etc) as that what's they were when I first came to them - but things move on, and the good outweighs the "slightly less good" many times over to my mind. My only real concern at the moment is the longevity of this renaissance given what CVC are (a private equity firm), and Georges' own plans to sell his stake at some point. But for the moment I'm more than happy to be along for the ride as it's definitely going in the right direction IMO.

Obviously I'm a fan of the new direction. I was ok with the aviation focus (worked in the field for over 30 years after all) but I also saw it was limiting - for example if the company only ever talks aircraft where do the superoceans fit it? And its not like the aviation stuff went away - it got added to. Also, I really like that Breitling feels 'closer' to me now - rather than giving a bunch of money to three guys flying a balloon that has zero to do with me - sponsor a triathlete doing the same race I did in 2015 and will hopefully do again soon or a woman surfing the same waves I do feels more real I guess, more grounded - at the risk of parroting their media guys - more accessible and inclusive. (ps I dream of Breitling sponsoring a world tour team but now is definitely not the time).

I completely agree with the comments on the overuse of celebs. It's one thing to have a photo of someone wearing a watch, but my issue is the amount of focus Breitling is placing on these folks overshadows the focus on the watch itself, and I find that offputting. Plus, I have a rather narrow view of celebs in general, as I think people give them way too much emphasis in their off-screen lives. I'm too busy in my own life to worry about what an entertainer, athlete, executive, etc. does, says, wears, dates, etc.

rocinante, thanks for the video links! I just watched all three of them and learned a lot. I had no idea of the background or history of Breitling for years and years after buying my Navitimer, and until just now I still didn't know a lot of what you discussed. I bought my Navi in 2006 and had no interest in any other watch for a very long time before and after that, and could have cared less about who was in charge of Breitling or where they were headed. I just knew I liked that watch.

Very interesting discussion about high, medium and low notes. I never thought of it that way, but that makes a lot of sense. I also found your discussion about the re-releases insightful. To me, those have always seemed to be counterfeit copies of the original, but I really appreciated the different perspectives.