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Author:  Yzord [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  May i ask you some questions?
Ok, i am new to this forum and maybe not in a position to ask this type of questions to (senior) members. But what i do like the most on forums are the several different minded people who love mostly a particulair thing, like here the Breitling.

To see what people think about their love i always ask some questions to see if we are all different minded even when we love the same thing.

Feel free to answer them, if not, feel free to discuss. If admin or mods are not happy with this topic, also feel free to delete it :wink:

Personal:

1. How old are you and where are you from?
2. From where comes your love for exclusive things?
3. Are you rich compared to the most?
4. What is your job?
5. Are you married?
6. Do you have kids?

Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models?
8. Did you payed the retailed price for them?
9. Do you prefer vintage or new?
10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it)
11. Quartz or Automatic?
12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex?
13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service?

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one?
15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake?
16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art?
18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it?
19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands?
20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum?

Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite?

The crew part of making this topic is ofcourse answering the questions myself. But here i go.

1. 33 years old and i am from Holland.
2. I don't know. Not that i love exclusive things, but sometimes i get something in my head and it won't go away before i have it :(
3. No, i am not rich compared to other, but i do not have the right to complain, simple there are a lot more people who has to deal with alot less money then me.
4. I work at the university in Holland as an ICT Dispatcher. I give the work to others.
5. With a lovely wife which is 29 years old.
6. yes, 2 sons. One is 4 and one is almost 2 weeks now.

7. One Crosswind. And also one fake "Crosswind lookalike". I never wear the fake one though, but always kept it.
8. For my Crosswind: No. For the fake: Yes :)
9. I prefer vintage!!! I like exclusive things in vintage allthough my Crosswind comes from 1997 (which is in excellent condition) is not really a vintage. But i always liked this model from the start.
10. Metal (sorry, still don't know the right word for it).
11. Automatic FTW!!
12. Personally i don't see Rolex as exclusive. What i like to Breitling is that it has a robust look. Rolex has more the "look at my money" look.
13. I am planning to...
14. Yes haha. But it don't take much to convince her :)
15. Yes certainly. People who are shouting that it is fake, but don't know the reason why it is fake. Those are the one i tell it is a fake.
16. The time is there when someone else tells him it is real :)
17. Yes, with the first one. In that time i really didn't have the money to spend for just a watch which costs 5000USD or more. I knew it was fake and i didn't wear it much. Only on some special events where your watch isn't important to your companions and when it looks good with your shirt or suit. I always told them that it was a fake though if someone asked.
18. Well, the Breitling is a piece of art which well serviced can hold very long. Maybe i will give (this) one to my son(s) later.
19. I never wear watches because my wrist is to thick. But i always had a crush for Breitlings because my uncle, who was treasurediver, had one. And i always played with the bezel when he came for a birthday. He always told me i would get it from him when he dies. Unfortunally he died indeed due a caraccident several years ago. but the Breitling was totally crashed with his body.
20. I think so :)
21. For me it is the Crosswind for sure. I like most of the models, but they always have something i don't like (most of the time the bracelet). Hard to tell what it is though. But the Crosswind has everything for me.

Thanks for readin. Maybe we see your answers to these questions. Do you also have an interesting question, please post it so i can add it.
Author:  carlhaluss [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
Daag Yzord!
Of course you can ask these questions! Welcome to the forum, and I am sure you will have a great time on here.
I lived in Holland, in Amsterdam, some time ago. I worked at Schiphol Airport for Finnair. It was one of the best times of my life, the time I spent in Holland. I will always have a great fondness for the Dutch people.
Anyway, I have some time, so here goes to the answers to your questions:
1. I am 59 years old, and I was born here in Vancouver, BC, Canada
2. I appreciate art, and a lot of exclusive things like a Breitling watch are, for me, a form of art. Not only the mechanical and technological aspects of the watch, but the aesthetics as well.
3. I'm certainly not rich, although I could have been if I had not spent so much money during my lifetime. As a matter of fact, I could probably have retired long ago if I had save. But I enjoyed, and that is the main thing. I want for nothing, and am very content.
4. I work in the Bindery/Finising department of a Print Shop. We bind books, do cutting, stapling, folding and everything else to finish off a printed item before it goes to the customer.
5. Not married
6. No kids
7. 2 Breitlings: Avenger Skyland Blacksteel, SuperOcean Steelfish
8. Retail
9. Prefer new, but I have not come across a vinatage that I like well enough or can afford.
10. No preference. My first Breitling was a quartz, and I hope to get another sometime. Currently, both mine are automatics
11. I guess you mean the strap or bracelet. I prefer a metal bracelet over a leather or rubber strap. I do have an Ocean Racer strap for my Steelfish, as well as the stainless steel bracelet. Of course the Blacksteel comes with a Diver Pro rubber strap
12. I prefer the looks of the Breitling over Rolex, and am unable to afford the model of Rolex I would prefer. To me the Rolex doesn't look as good as the Breitling anyway
13. My last SuperOcean I had for 10 years before I had it serviced. It should really be after 5 years. After the service, I traded it for the Blacksteel, otherwise I would have kept it
14. I don't have a wife or male partner, but my friends and family cannot relate to my spending so much money on watches. Most of them will spend a maximum of a couple hundred dollars on a watch
15. Nobody has ever called my watches a fake
16. I guess if they want to think it's fake, it really doesn't matter to me
17. I don't buy fakes. Either the real thing, or not at all.
18. If I had a son, probably I would start by buying him a Colt Quartz II
19. I have a Raymond Weil Don Giovanni and a Tissot Le Locle. I plan to sell both of them, as I do not wear them at all, though they are both beautiful watches
20. This poll is great for me. I like to answer questions, and to help others in the forum as much as I can. It is very seldom that most of us get to talk about our watches, and often some personal things, so this is a great outlet for that. People really listen to what you have to say.
21. My favourite is the SuperOcean Steelfish. Although I look at a lot of others, and try them on, I am especially happy with the Steelfish. If I had the money, I would own a Blackbird and a Bentley 6.75 as well. The Blacksteel was my favourite for a few months, but for some reason a lot of the fondness has disappeared. It is a beautiful watch, but even if I just wear it once in a while for a day, I do not have the same feelings for it that I have for the Steelfish. I does to show that the cost of an item is not always a big part of one's fondness for it. The Blacksteel cost me almost twice what my Steelfish did.
Thanks for your posting, a please enjoy the forum.
Cheers,
Carl
Author:  CSH [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:19 pm ]
Post subject: 
I'll give it a shot...

1. I am 20 years old from Davenport, Iowa
2. My love for exclusive things had been recent thing with me, but I think I have learned to like nice things from my parents.
3. Not rich, just a lucky college student
4. Job: Student...not bad if you ask me
5. Not married
6. No kids

7. I own just one Breitling, SuperOcean. I have already started saving to buy another after I graduate college.
8. I'm afraid I did pay retail for it as I didn't have much experience with buying such an expensive item at 18, but I did get 2 free Indianapolis 500 tickets out of it.
9. New
10. I like both leather and stainless steel.
11. Automatic is a must.
12. I always loved the complicated dials of Breitlings, but recently I have found myself liking Rolex's more and more.
13. Haven't serviced my watch yet.

14. My parents think I'm nuts.
15. Nope
16. N/A
17. The only fake I have is a Rolex Submariner, I kinda like it... :shock:
18. Only one right now, hopefully more in the future...not thinking kids at the moment.
19. I like other brands like Rolex, Corum (Admirals Cup), Omega.
20. Yep.

21. I don't have a favorite model, but I do love the Navi!
Author:  RJRJRJ [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
Wow! Well, I usually avoid these ones, but I guess ill give it a shot...

1. Im 26 and from Los Angeles.
2. I wouldnt say I have a love, per se, but I just dont like average stuff. I enjoy technology and workmanship, and make sure to buy good quality things, whether they be a watch, a knife, or clothing.
3. Im not poor.
4. At this point, im a real estate investor.
5. Not married.
5. No Kids that I know of.

7. Ive owned a Colt II, a Steelfish, and a Skyland. I currently only own a Skyland.
8. Never pay retail.
9. New.
10. Usually a metal bracelet.
11. Automatic.
12. I like the variety and style of breitling. most other brands just dont suit my style.
13. Havent had to service yet, but if I still have one at the time, ill service it.

14. No wife or man to call me nuts, but if they did I wouldnt pay much attention.
15. Havent had somebody call it fake, yet.
16. ...
17. No fakes
18. No special B at the moment.
19. Im open to any brand if theyve got what I like.
20. Yes, its fun, but a bit long :shock:

21. Id have to say my favorite right now is the Bentley GT.
Author:  tozzleozzle [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: May i ask you some questions?
I love theys, good idia m

1. 19 and from the uk
2. just a lifstyle change
3. well more so then my freinds
4. Architectural tech/designer
5. no
6. no

Related:

7. 1, my steel seawolf
8. HA, no
9. NEW
10. dipends, i love both realy
11. Automatic!
12. i love them and always have, i love other brands to but breitlings hav a special sumpthink to them.
13. havent had it long enuf yet, but i will service it

Funny questions:

14. yes!
15. no!
16.
17. NO
18. haha no
19. im intrested in other brands, but no dought i will get another
20. yes :D

Last but not least:

21. seawolf (duh) and 6.75
Author:  Sav [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:56 am ]
Post subject: 
1 - I'm 34 next monday and was born and raised in Gravesend, Kent, England.
2 - I thought I'd get a Breitling to last me a long, long time.
3 - Not rich, but better off than most that I know.
4 - I work at Liffe, the futures exchange.
5 - No.
6 - No.

7 - Just a Hercules at the moment.
8 - I got a 10% discount.
9 - Both.
10 - Metal.
11 - Not entirely sure.
12 - My friend that I used to work with had just got one.
13 - It's in for a service as we speak, should have it back in a month :(

14 - She likes the finer things in life so no.
15 - If anyone asks, I tell them it's real.
16 - N/A
17 - No.
18 - N/A.
19 - I would happily buy from another brand if I liked it.
20 - I think it's interesting to get other people's views, so yes.

21 - My Hercules.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:34 am ]
Post subject: 
Wow, that's a lot of questions, and I'm not going to take on them all, but here goes:

1) 37 from Ontario Canada - about 2 hours north of Toronto. Grew up in rural Kent, England
2) Always loved watches, couldn't always afford them, but started appreciating recent watch history (last 60 years or so and came to Breitling from there)
3) That's a hard question to answer - I have more than some, less than others. I can't complain.
4) I run my own management consulting firm, my personal engagements are focused around business critical project management / executive management. Currently working on engagements as a CIO of a public company, developing IT strategy for a charitable foundation and developing a measurement methodology of the professional services arm of a software company. I'm also a regularly published author of articles on project management topics.
5) Yes
6) Two stepsons

7) Never reveal the full list - it's just one of those things. The acquisitions that the board knows about are Cockpit, DB Cosmonaute, AS Blacksteel, Montbrillant Legende, Mark VI Complications 19, Le Mans. Wife has Cockpit Lady and SOH38.
8) Never paid retail for any of them
9) Impossible to answer, I have watches from the 40s to the 2000s and like them all
10) Depends on the watch, have calf, croc, steel and TT, also change them on some watches
11) Automatic - or at least mechanical, some of my favourites are manual wind
12) Not exclusively Breitling, but the brand appeals to me in terms of style, quality and value. Rolex doesn't appeal to me, but if they brought out a piece that I liked, I'd buy one.
13) Never sell a piece that I buy, unless I have only specifically acquired it to sell.

14) No, doesn't have the same fascination as me, but she understands and respects my appreciation of them.
15) I rarely get it - people who know me know my knowledge on the subject, and besides, I don't care what others think.
16) N/A
17) I will never knowingly buy a fake
18) My stepsons will get whatever pieces they like
19) Not exclusively Breitling, but likely to continue to be a large part of the collection
20) It's entertaining and if people want to contribute it's enlightening, but it's also a bit long!

21) Favourite model - well, it would have to be a vintage QP. Of the pieces I own - currently would have to be the Le Mans as it's the newest acquisition (although it isn't here yet).
Author:  Stefan Tapp [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:10 am ]
Post subject: 
Personal:

1. How old are you and where are you from? 39 and live in Southampton, UK
2. From where comes your love for exclusive things? I don't do normal!
3. Are you rich compared to the most? Comfortable is my phrase
4. What is your job? IT Consultant
5. Are you married? Yes, very happily
6. Do you have kids? Just the one

Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models? 3 currently, a Navitimer World, Super Avenger and a Seawolf. I've owned various other models in the past though
8. Did you payed the retailed price for them? Not for any of my current ones
9. Do you prefer vintage or new? New
10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it) 60% Leather 40% metal
11. Quartz or Automatic? Automatic
12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex? Prefer the design and the slightly more exclusivity, everyone's heard of Rolex right?
13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service? Service

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one? She can't see the 'watch' attraction!
15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake? No, I just laugh
16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art? Never, perish the thought!
18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it? Not yet!
19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands? 90% Breitling
20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum? Yes

Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite? Navitimer (any)

Stef
Author:  61jaguar [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:21 pm ]
Post subject: 
1. 45 holland
2. have always had nice things
3. rich, that depends how you define this, I would say yes
4. fine artist
5. divorced
6. 3 kids

7. 6 breitlings, 2 omegas, 2 others
8. always get a discount
9. new
10.both equally
11. both
12. love the design
13. keep and service

14. thats enough for now...
pete
Author:  Kongo! [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May i ask you some questions?
Yzord wrote:

Personal:

1. How old are you and where are you from?
26,Greece-Germany
2. From where comes your love for exclusive things?
Always had that love but never could afford myself something :D
3. Are you rich compared to the most?
Definitely No
4. What is your job?
Lawyer
5. Are you married?
No
6. Do you have kids?
No

Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models?
None Breitling yet,just "crappy" replicas hahaha I do actually like my "Breitling Pult-Somekind" :)
8. Did you payed the retailed price for them?
I don't think I would go after looking for retail...If i have it I spent it!:wink:
9. Do you prefer vintage or new?
New
10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it)
Depens on who it looks on the watch
11. Quartz or Automatic?
Automatic
12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex?
Breitling is Breitling!I've never been into watches but when I first saw a Breitling I sad Hell yeah that's a watch!!...Wtf is a rolex? :D
13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service?

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one?
Yes,even when buying tons of replicas hahaha
15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake?
Course not! :D They don't even know what a Breitling is so they can't actually tell wether its fake or not.
16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art?
Eehmm..Yeah :oops: But a real one will follow soon!Promised!
18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it?
Naaa...
19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands?
B-R-E-I-T-L-I-N-G!!
20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum?
Don't know I am a newbie :D...I don't think so..
Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite?
...Many...
Author:  RICK S [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:55 pm ]
Post subject: 
Personal:

1. How old are you and where are you from? 56 and live north of Chicago Illinois.
2. From where comes your love for exclusive things? If you buy quailty it lasts longer and if its what you want buy the things you 'really want".
3. Are you rich compared to the most? My wife and I are doing well.
4. What is your job? Law enforcement and Police trainer.
5. Are you married? Yes.
6. Do you have kids? 3 sons all in thier 20s.

Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models? 3, Super avenger, Seawolf and B-1
8. Did you payed the retailed price for them? NO
9. Do you prefer vintage or new? Newer models
10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it) Braclet or rubber straps
11. Quartz or Automatic? Both
12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex? To small and I like the styles of Breitling.
13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service? Service when needed.

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one? Not at all, she has very nice things as well. You only live once ( I think).
15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake? No one tells me mine are fake.
16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art? NEVER
18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it? Each will receive at least one when I die.
19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands? I have other knock arounds and like other brands to, Breitling is my number one.
20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum? The forum is fun and the guys on it are a great bunch.

Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite? Super avenger.

:fulllingclub:
Author:  BroncoSport [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: May i ask you some questions?
1. How old are you and where are you from?
39, Kansas USA
2. From where comes your love for exclusive things?
Wealth envy :)
3. Are you rich compared to the most?
Not even close, but compared to my peers I manage my funds better.
4. What is your job?
CableTV technician, Bailbondsman, Real estate investor
5. Are you married?
Yes, 17 years now
6. Do you have kids?
2
Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models?
4 Breitlings. Chronomat Evolution, Steelfish (black dial), Steelfish (silver dial), Starliner two tone
8. Did you payed the retailed price for them?
NEVER
9. Do you prefer vintage or new?
Right now new, but there are some vintage pieces that are appealing
10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it)
Both, but I prefer a bracelet
11. Quartz or Automatic?
Automatic, except for the wifes current and future watches, I do not ever plan on owning a quartz.
12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex?
The stylings and size of Breitlings are more appealing but I like all brands of luxury wathces including Rolex. I just dont happen to own a Rolex YET.
13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service?
I plan on servicing my watches when I fell they need it (start loosing time, ect) I do not plan on selling my collection, just adding to it.

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one?
No, she knows that watches are my passion and that I will not buy one until I have saved the money and never finance a watch.
15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake?
Never and I will defend the authenticity to anyone who challenges me on it. I would concider it an insult and anyone who wears a fake is a fake themselves.
16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
NA
17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art?
Never have, never will.
18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it?
Possibly my Evo
19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands?
All the major players in the luxury watch world.
20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum?
Sure, but rather long! :)
Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite?
Chronomat Evolution (since I own one) or 6.75 Bronze Bentley (which I might buy next year!)


Scott
Author:  adamdavid [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:02 am ]
Post subject: 
Personal:

1. 33 from Solihull, England :brit
2. I like to do my own thing instead of following the herd.
3. No. I have a decent job, which earns me a decent living, but I'm not rich by any reasonable definition.
4. Eye specialist
5. No
6. No

Related:

7. Just one so far - A Wings Auto.
8. Yes
9. New
10. Metal
11. Automatic
12. Rolex is too obvious a choice for a luxury watch. Breitling is much less well known. Fits in with my answer to question 2.
13. I get it serviced when it misbehaves

Funny questions:

14. N/A - I'm all alone!
15. No fakes. No friends, either :(
16. N/A
17. No
18. N/A
19. I'd be tempted by other brands. IWC, GP, Rolex, Omega. If it looks right, the name is sort of secondary.
20. Yes. :thumbsup:

Last but not least:

21. I like my Wings. I'm very tempted by the Chronomat and the Chrono Superocean.

Regards
Adam
Author:  Alien [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:35 am ]
Post subject: 
Personal:

1. 40. Vienna, Austria
2. Job
3. slightly above average
4. dealing with watches and jewelery
5. No, You still have a chance to get me...
6. One son, 3 years old

Related:

7. 3 collections in 3 stores.....
8. Then I would be broke
9. only new
10. metal bracelet
11. normally Automatic, but it depends on the purpose
12. Because the damned ****** of Rolex representative would not sell me a collection...
13. Yes, we do watch services

Funny questions:

14. She knows, its my job.
15. Never happend to me
17. I would never buy one.
18. We will see, what the collection will be at that time.
19. Breitling prefered
20. Otherwise I would not answer it

Last but not least:

21. Bentley Mark VI Complication 19, silver dial, steel bracelet
Author:  aleister [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: May i ask you some questions?
Personal:

1. How old are you and where are you from?
32, from Sweden but living in Tokyo, Japan

2. From where comes your love for exclusive things?
I don't know. I'd say I have always liked quality, and then you have to pay a bit more. Exclusive? Not necessarily.

3. Are you rich compared to the most?
I'm above average, I guess.

4. What is your job?
Production Manager, Biochemistry.

5. Are you married?
Yes.

6. Do you have kids?
Yes, 2 daughters.

Related:

7. How many Breitlings do you own and which models?
Currently 8 - A white dial Breitling for Bentley 6.75, a black dial Breitling for Bentley 6.75, a white Navitimer Montbrillant Legende, a red Chronomat, a blue 24 hr LE Chrono-Matic, a black Super Avenger, a coral Super Ocean, a blue 24 hr Navitimer Cosmonaute DB.

8. Did you pay the retail price for them?
No.

9. Do you prefer vintage or new?
New. But some history is great too.

10. Leather or metal (sorry i don't know the right word for it)
I prefer the metal bracelet over straps.

11. Quartz or Automatic?
Automatic.

12. Why Breitling? Why not for instance a Rolex?
The coral SO got me hooked, since then I'm stuck. :)

13. Do you service them all, or do you sell it when it comes to a service?
I service them when needed.

Funny questions:

14. Is your wife or man calling you nuts when to buy one?
Yes, of course. :lol:

15. Do you tell others who are screaming that yours is fake (cause they don't know better) that it is a fake?
I don't get that from others.

16. If yes, when is it the time to tell them you faked them?
See above.

17. Do you buy fakes, just because you can't buy (anymore) that real piece of art?
Never - that would just be trying to fool myself.

18. Do you have a special Breitling that you want to give your son later when its time for it?
No - as I have 2 daughters and no more kids planned. :)

19. Breitling all the way or also some other brands?
Fine watches, all brands are welcome.

20. Do you think this poll is fun for the forum?
It seems so. ;)

Last but not least:

21. Which model is your favorite?
For the moment - probably the hunt for a Breitling for Bentley Le Mans.
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