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In2Deep wrote:

There was talks about 406Mhz but I didn't keep up with it after I sold my Mission.

No, there wasn't. Satellites are switching to 406 in2009, and ever since it was announced there has been discussion in hte forums about whether Breitlings would continue to work. There has never been any suggestion that Breitling would switch - that's pure BS.

This is somewhat off topic for this discussion, so if it need's to be debated again then another thread can be started, but here is Breitling's latest position:

Frequency 121.5 / 406 MHz – BREITLING Emergency

Regarding our BREITLING Emergency survival instrument, we are aware about the change of frequency creating various questions and concerns and we would like to give you the following explanations:

As far as the aeronautical distress frequencies 121.5MHz and 406MHz are concerned, it must be taken into consideration that a rescue operation is composed by 3 phases;

Alert, Location, Rescue

The planned move to the use of 406MHz announced by the COSPAS-SARSAT satellite network for the year 2009 will improve alerting rescue personnel in the event of an emergency situation and provide an approximate position of the beacon. However, accuracy is within two miles using this frequency.

The usefulness and performance of the BREITLING Emergency therefore is in no way modified since in the second phase of localizing the victim, the 121.5MHz frequency still will be the only precise and reliable system to position the beacon within a few meters. This will continue to play a decisive role in the success of a rescue operation. Furthermore, all 406 MHz beacons operate and will be operating on two frequencies (406/121.5MHz).

In the event of an accident, the signal received by COSPAS-SARSAT is analyzed so as to calculate the approximate position of a crash and begin search immediately. It is only during the second phase, meaning during the search itself, that the use of the Emergency comes into play. Its micro-transmitter with its 48 power reserve is ideal for the close-range localization once the sector of the crash has been determined. As soon as the signal is activated, search aircraft pick up the 121.5 MHz frequency and can immediately home on the Emergency and proceed with rescuing survivors.

The aim of the BREITLING Emergency working on the 121.5MHz frequency is clearly to facilitate the location of the individual in distress and does not necessarily activate rescue operations but is a complement to airborne beacons.

Since launching our time and survival instrument BREITLING Emergency in the year 1996, no false alarm has been incited and its 100% reliability has enabled to localize and rescue about 20 individuals up to this day.

The Emergency instrument will be keeping its function as an additional and personal “life-saving-device” for many years to come and there is no intention to recall our watches and replace the frequency.

We hope these clarifications will help you understand the situation and wish you a lot of pleasure with your BREITLING Emergency watch."

Author:	Driver8 [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:14 am ]
Post subject:	Chrono-Matic Discontinued
I meant to mention this earlier, but looking in the 09 Chronolog, the previous model Chrono-Matic (i.e. the lefty-crowned pre-CM 49 model) has been discontinued. Seems a little strange as that model has only been out a few years...... but maybe it just wasn't that popular. If it had been bigger, I'd have definitely bought one as I love the classic left hand crown. Also I couldn't help noticing the number of watches in each of the 4 ranges. I'm doing this from memory as I don't have my Chronolog to hand, but I think the Navi range has 8 models, the Windrider about 7, the Professional line has just 5 watches, but the Aeromarine range has 15! Quite odd that Breitling (who are obviously best known for their aviation heritage) should weight their ranges so heavily in favour of the diving models. While I like the diving models, I'm hoping that we'll see a few more models in the other lines for the 125th anniversary. Like maybe a bigger Chronomat! Please, pleeeeease!

Author:	TxKarateDude [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:35 am ]
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When you consider that the Navitimer, Windrider, and Professional are aviation oriented then it does make sense. Sure, there is crossover between the lines but for the most part I think the aviation line represents well, and the divers ARE very popular these days. I think it's a fair balance and planned so that appeal is broader, as opposed to targeting a specific demographic.

Author:	Roffensian [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:26 am ]
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That's a real shame, I like the connection with history on that watch. Hopefully there will be something else coming along at Basel as a replacement. I definitely feel that the Aeromarine line has reached capacity now, but if members here are anything to go by then that is the range that is increasingly widening the appeal of Breitling and bringing first timers in so it's easy to see why Breitling is investing heavily there.

Author:	Driver8 [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:41 am ]
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Roffensian wrote: That's a real shame, I like the connection with history on that watch. Hopefully there will be something else coming along at Basel as a replacement. I definitely feel that the Aeromarine line has reached capacity now, but if members here are anything to go by then that is the range that is increasingly widening the appeal of Breitling and bringing first timers in so it's easy to see why Breitling is investing heavily there. Agreed.... on all counts. The line that really feels like it's lacking to me is the Windrider range as apart from a few facelifts here and there we've not seen anything completely new for good few years now.

Author:	alex** [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:44 am ]
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Maybe they will do another LE 24hr Chronomatic thats was a keeper!!

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Author:	Verner [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:12 am ]
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Is the Emergency Mission still in there? I heard that it was to be discontinued...

Author:	In2Deep [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:38 am ]
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Verner wrote: Is the Emergency Mission still in there? I heard that it was to be discontinued... Maybe you are thinking of the frequency change they did.

Author:	Driver8 [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:54 am ]
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Verner wrote: Is the Emergency Mission still in there? I heard that it was to be discontinued... Hey you're right! The Mission is history! Full listing is as follows - Navtimer 1. Navitimer 2. Navitimer World 3. Cosmonaute 4. Montbrillant 5. Montbrillant Legende 6. Montbrillant Olympus 7. Montbrillant Datora 8. Chrono-Matic 49 Windrider 1. Chronomat 2. Cockpit 3. Cockpit Chrono 4. Cockpit Lady 5. Starliner 6. Blackbird Professional 1. Emergency 2. Aerospace 3. Airwolf 4. Skyracer + the Co-Pilot module. (So now only 4 in the Pro range!) Aeromarine 1. Super Avenger 2. Avenger Skyland 3. Avenger Seawolf 4. Avenger Seawolf Chrono 5. Chrono Superocean 6. Superocean 7. Superocean Steelfish 8. Superocean Heritage 46 9. Superocean Heritage 38 10. Superocean Heritage Chronographe 11. Chrono Colt 12. Colt GMT 13. Colt Automatic 14. Colt Quartz 15. Colt Oceane I reckon that's got to indicate some more 125 Anniversary models in the other lines............. at least I hope it does!

Author:	In2Deep [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:03 am ]
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wow

Author:	Roffensian [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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A few points.... Frequency change, what frequency change - Breitling has been saying for years that they weren't changing frequency, and there is no need. It's only the satellite monitoring that is changing and a signal from an Emergency / Emergency Mission isn't strong enough to reach satellites anyway. 121.5MHz will continue to be monitored by aircraft and surface vessels. New models, well it wouldn't surprise me. A couple of people who usually talk to me are currently not talking, and I speculated earlier in the year that the lack of innovation this year might well be because the R&D team was busy on the 09 model year. A special / limited edition chronomatic, it does seem natural - 2009 is the 40th anniversary of the first automatic chrono after all, and Breitling claims to have been first (as their watch was the first available to the public). Anniversary pieces - I keep hearing these rumours, and there are some signficant ones - 40th anniversary I mentioned above, 20th anniversary of BUSA, 125th anniversary of Breitling, there's bound to be something. Larger Windrider, I know that this has been lobbied to Breitling SA by some of the regional distributors, but I have no idea whether anyone was listening.

Author:	In2Deep [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:14 pm ]
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There was talks about 406Mhz but I didn't keep up with it after I sold my Mission.

Author:	Roffensian [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:23 pm ]
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In2Deep wrote: There was talks about 406Mhz but I didn't keep up with it after I sold my Mission. No, there wasn't. Satellites are switching to 406 in2009, and ever since it was announced there has been discussion in hte forums about whether Breitlings would continue to work. There has never been any suggestion that Breitling would switch - that's pure BS. This is somewhat off topic for this discussion, so if it need's to be debated again then another thread can be started, but here is Breitling's latest position: Frequency 121.5 / 406 MHz – BREITLING Emergency Regarding our BREITLING Emergency survival instrument, we are aware about the change of frequency creating various questions and concerns and we would like to give you the following explanations: As far as the aeronautical distress frequencies 121.5MHz and 406MHz are concerned, it must be taken into consideration that a rescue operation is composed by 3 phases; Alert, Location, Rescue The planned move to the use of 406MHz announced by the COSPAS-SARSAT satellite network for the year 2009 will improve alerting rescue personnel in the event of an emergency situation and provide an approximate position of the beacon. However, accuracy is within two miles using this frequency. The usefulness and performance of the BREITLING Emergency therefore is in no way modified since in the second phase of localizing the victim, the 121.5MHz frequency still will be the only precise and reliable system to position the beacon within a few meters. This will continue to play a decisive role in the success of a rescue operation. Furthermore, all 406 MHz beacons operate and will be operating on two frequencies (406/121.5MHz). In the event of an accident, the signal received by COSPAS-SARSAT is analyzed so as to calculate the approximate position of a crash and begin search immediately. It is only during the second phase, meaning during the search itself, that the use of the Emergency comes into play. Its micro-transmitter with its 48 power reserve is ideal for the close-range localization once the sector of the crash has been determined. As soon as the signal is activated, search aircraft pick up the 121.5 MHz frequency and can immediately home on the Emergency and proceed with rescuing survivors. The aim of the BREITLING Emergency working on the 121.5MHz frequency is clearly to facilitate the location of the individual in distress and does not necessarily activate rescue operations but is a complement to airborne beacons. Since launching our time and survival instrument BREITLING Emergency in the year 1996, no false alarm has been incited and its 100% reliability has enabled to localize and rescue about 20 individuals up to this day. The Emergency instrument will be keeping its function as an additional and personal “life-saving-device” for many years to come and there is no intention to recall our watches and replace the frequency. We hope these clarifications will help you understand the situation and wish you a lot of pleasure with your BREITLING Emergency watch."

Author:	krlyuzh [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:17 pm ]
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I hate the fact that Breitling is discontinuing this watch. Really. I think it was awesome and really one of the classic models Breitling re-introduced. I'm sure it'll come back in near future, bigger and better. Meanwhile, all the new old stock that I had in these is at a good price. Let me know if anyone is looking

Author:	In2Deep [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:38 pm ]
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I see. It makes sense. When I said there was talks I was referring to what I've seen on various forums so it being BS isn't surprising Either way both the Emergency and the Emergency Mission are still solid watches

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Author:	BMV268 [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:39 pm ]
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Roffensian wrote: In2Deep wrote: There was talks about 406Mhz but I didn't keep up with it after I sold my Mission. No, there wasn't. Satellites are switching to 406 in2009, and ever since it was announced there has been discussion in hte forums about whether Breitlings would continue to work. There has never been any suggestion that Breitling would switch - that's pure BS. This is somewhat off topic for this discussion, so if it need's to be debated again then another thread can be started, but here is Breitling's latest position: Frequency 121.5 / 406 MHz – BREITLING Emergency Regarding our BREITLING Emergency survival instrument, we are aware about the change of frequency creating various questions and concerns and we would like to give you the following explanations: As far as the aeronautical distress frequencies 121.5MHz and 406MHz are concerned, it must be taken into consideration that a rescue operation is composed by 3 phases; Alert, Location, Rescue The planned move to the use of 406MHz announced by the COSPAS-SARSAT satellite network for the year 2009 will improve alerting rescue personnel in the event of an emergency situation and provide an approximate position of the beacon. However, accuracy is within two miles using this frequency. The usefulness and performance of the BREITLING Emergency therefore is in no way modified since in the second phase of localizing the victim, the 121.5MHz frequency still will be the only precise and reliable system to position the beacon within a few meters. This will continue to play a decisive role in the success of a rescue operation. Furthermore, all 406 MHz beacons operate and will be operating on two frequencies (406/121.5MHz). In the event of an accident, the signal received by COSPAS-SARSAT is analyzed so as to calculate the approximate position of a crash and begin search immediately. It is only during the second phase, meaning during the search itself, that the use of the Emergency comes into play. Its micro-transmitter with its 48 power reserve is ideal for the close-range localization once the sector of the crash has been determined. As soon as the signal is activated, search aircraft pick up the 121.5 MHz frequency and can immediately home on the Emergency and proceed with rescuing survivors. The aim of the BREITLING Emergency working on the 121.5MHz frequency is clearly to facilitate the location of the individual in distress and does not necessarily activate rescue operations but is a complement to airborne beacons. Since launching our time and survival instrument BREITLING Emergency in the year 1996, no false alarm has been incited and its 100% reliability has enabled to localize and rescue about 20 individuals up to this day. The Emergency instrument will be keeping its function as an additional and personal “life-saving-device” for many years to come and there is no intention to recall our watches and replace the frequency. We hope these clarifications will help you understand the situation and wish you a lot of pleasure with your BREITLING Emergency watch." Damn, I just love all the interesting information I get off of this forum. It's great. Where did you originally get this information?