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I want to buy another watch and i oscillate betwin navitimer B01 or speedmaster chrono co-axial 9300.
i want to know witch movement is better ?
-Reliability
-maintenance cost
-etc.

In my personal experience (and this may be controversial considering the forum!), I'd go with the 9300. The two B01 watches I've owned (for admittedly short periods of time) both suffered from "jump start" chronographs....which shouldn't happen on column wheel chronographs like the B01 and 9300. In contrast, every single 9300 that I've handled has started perfectly. Also the pusher on the 9300 are incredibly "positive" in their action.

Additionally, when looking at various forums, there just seems to be less evidence of issues in the "real world" with the 9300 compared to the B01.

I also really like the fact that the 9300 uses a different method of displaying the chronograph function (i.e. two totalisers on one subdial), compared to Breitling's tricompax layout. Of course, there is nothing wrong with the tricompax layout, but when you're paying for an in-house movement I think you may as well get something that looks and works a little differently. Plus Omega use a 6 o'clock date position on that movement as opposed to Breitling's 4:30 (which I've always disliked).

Lastly (and this is purely an aesthetic) but I prefer the decoration on the 9300.... and Omega use a lot more display backs than Breitling.

Maintenance costs should be reasonably comparable I would assume.

This may sound like I don't rate the B01, but that's not the case at all as it IS a very good movement : it's just that if it was my money, and my choice, then I'd personally choose the 9300.

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Driver8

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Here is an interesting read. "Who makes a better Movement, Rolex or Omega. By John Holbrook II. Read down to the paragraph concerning the beat rate of the Omega.
Hope this helps, Frank.

Good article Frank - thanks for posting.

All I would say however, is that that article was written in 2009, and Omega's co-axial technology has come on in leaps and bounds over the last 6 years, such that it's now very reliable and accurate. Plus while the 8500 is indeed a 25,200 vph movement, the 9300 actually beats at 28,800.

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Driver8

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I never said the Omega was bad as you never said the Breitling was bad. I was just giving another perspective on the subject.
Frank.

I wasn't being antagonistic or anything, Frank, and I know you weren't suggesting either movement was bad : I was genuinely offering thanks for posting the article as it's a very good read. I was just pointing out for the OP's benefit that the article predates the existence of the 9300 (which came along in 2011) and so it was therefore talking about the slower beating 8500 movement.

No offence meant.

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Driver8

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I was not questioning you. I was afraid I came across like I was being a jerk. Thank you for your reply and please understand what I was saying with my reply. No harm no foul. I appreciate you correcting my misstep as I should have caught the date of the article.
Be safe, Frank.

Thank you Gentlemens for your reviews, i hope to not start the third word war with my question,

but i am a fan of Breitling , in this moment i own the Chronomat evolution B13 it is a superb time pice but i want something more qualitative .

i have to decide betwin Omega speedmaster chronograf, and seamaster planet ocean both with Co axial 9300 , or Breitling navitimer and transocean both with B01.

All 4 watches are on the top of my list and i have to take a hard decision.

Thank you.

No probs - we're all friends here!

All great choices of watch you've got in mind there, as the Speedie, Navi and TOC are all very classic pieces. Can I ask though - have you tried the POC on? It's a fantastic watch that's beautifully detailed and incredibly well made, but it's very VERY thick on the wrist. I'd definitely encourage you not to buy that one "sight unseen" without at least trying on first.

Good luck with the decision!

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Driver8

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You are absolutely right the poc is a little big but it also veri nice timepiece .

i will annunce here what i have buyed.

Thank you.

In my opinion you should go with one of the Omegas:

Both movements are accurate and reliable--I can tell you that's true of my B01. However, I believe that both the 9300's sub-dial layout and movement finishing are more attractive than the B01 counterparts.

I went with the Navitimer 01 LE because I am captivated by (1) the look and history of the watch and (2) a Navitimer with an in-house movement visible through a display back. If those factors aren't an overwhelming pull factor for you as they were for me, then I recommend that you get one of the omegas

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Breitling Navitimer 01 LE

Hi. Just one question. Are you going to decide your purchase for the caliber only? I mean, it's a very important thing in a mechanical watch, but you'll see the dial most of the time. Which one catches more your attention without looking at the back?




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Completely agree with this, they are all more than good enough, decision has to be made on which 'speaks' to you, be it for looks, history of whatever, but the movements are sufficiently close in performance, maintenence etc that they wouldnt be a significant factor in the decision for me

I am interested also about the value in time .... Per ex. If i will keep the time piece in good condition but let's say i want to seel it after 10 years ,witch brand is keeping the value or increases value ?!?
I have this point of view because , my actual watch the Chronomat evolution B13 it was ~ 6000 euro in 2007 and now is maximum 2500 euro, this means i loss 58%.
In my opinion, the Breitling brand does not keep the value in time .... , like Omega , Rolex etc...
If someone is of the same opinion, please explane why?

Buy vintage, not new, if resale is of interest.