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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:36 am 
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Greetings,

I had erroneously posted some questions regarding the Emergency in the sale/trade section because I am in the market for one. I am opening this post for some general questions I have:

I found a new Emergency that was never sold but manufactured in 2008. The seller is stating the retail price for the Emergency was $7950.00. My research is that the retail price was $6700.00. Does anyone know what the last retail price of the Emergency was? Could the difference in price be due to the fact the watch is in the UK? I told the seller I believe the price he gave is for the Emergency with the UTC. Is that possible?
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http://www.breitlingsource.com/pricelist.shtml


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North American pricing is here - http://www.breitlingsource.com/pricelis ... ection=ASC. Last retail is $5,740 for the head only, then add in strap / bracelet price from here - http://www.breitlingsource.com/pricelis ... ection=ASC.

Combine the two and the highest price (titanium Pro II) would be $6,640, lowest would be $5,875 on rubber with tang. European prices are usually listed inclusive of sales tax which is the likely cause of the difference.

edit, TomP beat me to it.


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Oh great thanks for the links and sorry for being such a noob to the site! Such a good resource this site!!


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So the aithorized dealer in the UK is saying that the reason the Emergency they are selling retails for $7950 is because he says that Breitlings increase in value every year. That means to me that this is some arbitrary number they came up with. Does that sound legitimate? Don't the authorized dealers have to follow some kind of pricing list? It sucks because this was the only place that had a new old stock Emergency. Any ideas gents?


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ADs are not allowed to sell above MSRP. As the UK dealer whether the price includes VAT and (assuming that you are outside of the EU) what the price would be without VAT.


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Hi Roffensian, he stated the price is excluding VAT. I am in the US. I really think it wrong of them to I arbitrarily increase the retail price. The funny thing is, they gave me the $7950 price, and then extended a 25% discount to make it around $5960. I asked if mayne they had quoted me the price for an Emergency with a UTC and they said no, that they raised the prices based on their perceived value of the watch. I actually want to say the name of the dealer here because I am so mad that they are price gouging.


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Here is what he said directly from the email:

"The price. Breitlings go up in value every year. In the matter of a couple of years the price can go up by hundreds of pounds. Obviously our stock price follows this. The manufacturing year becomes irrelevant to this pricing, as long as the watch is the same and has not altered I.E. New bracelet, case modification and so on. Then the watch will be increased in its value to follow Breitlings price increases, hence why four years ago the watch was around £600+ cheaper than now.
The prices I have offered to you were without V.A.T and our discounts.
On average the Packaging and Postage are between £40-60.
If you can source a Breitling Emergency from the USA for the prices mentioned then we would not be able to help you unfortunately."

Unbelievable right?


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Well it's true up to the point where the model was discontinued, but doesn't explain the discrepancy.


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Thanks Roffensian, should I call Breitling UK? Is there a large difference in retail price from the US and UK? It is a 2008 model that they say has been in their safes somewhere for the last 5 years I guess. Does that seem normal? I then asked about the mandatory every 2 year service on the Emergency and if it had been performed accordingly. He said no, no service was needed and the reason was "The manufacturing year of the watch won’t affect its performance. It is customer usage that can affect these watches as I said this is un used so it will function and perform perfectly." That doesn't seem right to me either. Shouldn't the AD send it into Breitling for the battery change and service before they sell it since its past due?
By the US price list the 2008 Emergency was $5315, and $900 for the bracelet making it $6215. Still don't think they should tell me the price is now $7950 due to appreciation in value.
You may think, why don't I just find another dealer? Well I have called hundreds and none have a new Emergency.


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Price will go up every year that price is updated - that's just what happens. No AD is going to service it and as a buyer I wouldn't care - just get it serviced under warranty just before it expires. Not sure what you would phone BUK about - the UK price appears to be higher than the US price - OK, that's just the way it is.

I don't see an issue with what the AD is telling you assuming that the price they quoted is accurate with the last issued UK price for an Emergency.


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Ok so I am guessing there is no UK pricre list available here? I only see the US one.


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Ok so I am guessing there is no UK pricre list available here? I only see the US one.


Well I personally think that the owner does a pretty darn good job maintain the price list for one currency - you get a lot more than you pay for wouldn't you say!!!

Not sure why you think the AD is lying to you, but if you really need to check the price on a piece that you have already established is too expensive for you then perhaps a UK member with a price list from a few years back will post the price.


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Roffensian,
I never said the watch was too expensive for me at the price the AD is quoting me. I am simply trying to get the best price, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Secondly, I don't trust the AD because I don't really trust anyone, I'm from New York.
If anyone has a UK price list that would be great!
Thanks!


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Just on a point of information, the dealer isn't saying that the price has gone up because the watch has 'appreciated' as you put it, but because in subsequent years to the watch's actual year of manufacture the price of that same model went up. That's a very different thing.

I don't know anything about Emergencies so I don't know how true that is in this case; but in principle that is perfectly normal and standard practice. Many on here will have bought watches new which were two or three years old; they wouldn't have been quoted the official price from the year in which a given watch head was assembled; they would have been quoted the latest official price of that given model. (And then, generally, a discount...)


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