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still the incorrect '52 launch date, surprisingly Robert Jan still doesn't listen to me, but quite a decent list.

http://www.watchtime.com/blog/fratello- ... h-watches/

Tough to argue with much of the list, but also plenty of other pieces that could be considered for top 5. Perhaps Mr. Broer should join our community and learn something

Let me guess, before I look, a Daytona, a Navi, a Speedy, a Monaco and something from IWC...

Wouldnt be surprized...

Edit:

Ok, I looked... And I'm not surprized ... Quite unsurprizingly...

The only one i didnt see coming was the Carrera... But fair enough, its an icon.

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Fred

Yeah I'd have put the Monaco in before the Carrera, if only because of the Cal 11.

I could go with 3 of these, but there again, I probably could go with any other 5 5 as well. All very difficult these days to make a judgement with so many great watches out there. It all depends on your point of view on what constitutes a great Chrono as well, and not just from a techncial/features point of view either.

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Jim

"You have Control".

Can't argue with that too much.
Have the Navi and Speedy and the Daytona is definitely on the list.
Could certainly add the Potuguese happily too and the Careers would not look out of place either.

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Btw can someone please explain the difference between a modular and an integrated automatic movement. While Breitling claims to have had the first modular self winding movement with the 1806 (read modular automatic movement somewhere), Zenith claims to have built the first "integrated" automatic movement.

Is that Zenith just doing a play on words since it lost the prize to be the first auto movement in the market?

Not relevant to this thread, and plenty of discussions elsewhere here and on the web about Zenith El Primero vs. Heuer / Breitling / Hamilton / Dubois-Sepraz Calibre 11, but integrated means built as a chronograph, modular means built as a time only with a separate chronograph module attached.

claim is correct, though actually Seiko might have been the first in mass production.

Thanks Roff, just mentioned that because many would think the Zenith El Primero deserved to be in that list because it had the first auto movement. So guess is just a play of words by Zenith to confuse people about being the first auto movement albeit "integrated". Does it really matter if it was integrated or modular as long as it was the first automatic?:)

Thanks Fred, that's surprising!

Suggest that you read some of the articles on the subject. That statement is categorically untrue.

sounds like a plan, San

By a whisker (a few weeks). Check Seiko cal 6138. Integrated or not, 3 features stand out on this most venerable of Japanese movements. Crown on the right hand side for case, full external rotor and day date windows. Day date does a double shift so it either reads; Other language/Kenji and quite an interesting feature for its time.

It’s an ordinary movement, nothing to see really (except planted bridge), and just as we have come to expect and see from movement development ever since. Watchmakers find them easy to work on. No booby traps or difficult to service parts, absolutely bullet proof and highly reliable.

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Jim

"You have Control".

Thanks Jim, very interesting!