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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:53 pm 
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Had my eye on a Emergency so opened up the questioning with some EASY Questions, later to be followed by some detailed questions, anyway i think i will give up now.



Question sent.

Hi could you tell me when the last service was done and by whom, also the last battery change both watch and transmitter, any marks to the AR coating, is it a UK watch, do you have the original purchase receipt if all the questions are fine whats your best price cash collected.

Regards mark.

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No idea as to battery change
Service it is a quartz watch so pretty much unserviceable apart from battery
At coating ???
Seal on transmitter intact


then he sent another

UK watch place on Isle of Wight
No original receipt but paper work from harrods for transfer



I Am Walking Away especially at the ridiculous ££££ he's after and i an not in the mood to educate this turd.

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To be fair, not everyone knows what AR coating is. Some watches don't have it. I'm sure if you explained that it is the anti-reflective coating on the watch crystal, he would be able to answer your question for you. Not saying you should pursue further though, as it sounds like not right deal for you.

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Yes walk away I think is the most prudent course of action; if someone has an Emergency then you have to assume they will know a thing or two about the watch, this isn't a £2.99 Casio afterall; and of course you have to sign a document to state you will not deploy the transmitter unless it is a geniune emergency. Makes you worry about the potential choas the person could cause if he didn't know what the massive button at the bottom does and tries to turn it...!

Suspect its stolen - all the hallmarks of that going by what you have posted.


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SimonC wrote:
Yes walk away I think is the most prudent course of action; if someone has an Emergency then you have to assume they will know a thing or two about the watch, this isn't a £2.99 Casio afterall; and of course you have to sign a document to state you will not deploy the transmitter unless it is a geniune emergency. Makes you worry about the potential choas the person could cause if he didn't know what the massive button at the bottom does and tries to turn it...!

Suspect its stolen - all the hallmarks of that going by what you have posted.



I'm siding with dlNYC here. Not saying I would buy it based only upon the owner thinking it didn't require service because it is a quartz. Most people don't know squat about the several thousand dollar watch on their wrist. But to say based on that limited exchange it has all the hallmarks of being stolen is ... well .... a bit of a stretch. Quoting one of my favorite TV shows and dating myself somewhat, "Let's be careful out there" not only in buying but also leaping to conclusions.

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I don't see any hallmarks of stolen, but rather like sharkman said just another person who doesn't know about their watch.

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The vast majority of people who own a quartz watch have no idea that they still need servicing beyond a battery change. Many people come here not knowing what "AR" is, I honestly don't see what the seller did other than perhaps not take as much time to respond to a potential buyer's question.

I don't buy the argument that Emergency buyers are different and know what they are buying - I've heard it here before and I just don't get it, people will buy it for the 'cool' factor without any understanding.


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sharkman wrote:
SimonC wrote:
Yes walk away I think is the most prudent course of action; if someone has an Emergency then you have to assume they will know a thing or two about the watch, this isn't a £2.99 Casio afterall; and of course you have to sign a document to state you will not deploy the transmitter unless it is a geniune emergency. Makes you worry about the potential choas the person could cause if he didn't know what the massive button at the bottom does and tries to turn it...!

Suspect its stolen - all the hallmarks of that going by what you have posted.



I'm siding with dlNYC here. Not saying I would buy it based only upon the owner thinking it didn't require service because it is a quartz. Most people don't know squat about the several thousand dollar watch on their wrist. But to say based on that limited exchange it has all the hallmarks of being stolen is ... well .... a bit of a stretch. Quoting one of my favorite TV shows and dating myself somewhat, "Let's be careful out there" not only in buying but also leaping to conclusions.


I would strongly advise that anyone buying an expensive used watch from a seller they really don't know or can't authenticate should, 1) approach with caution, 2) assume it has had minimal service, and 3) take one and two into account when deciding how much you will pay. That way you never wind up getting into something bigger than you intend. Many eBay sellers are salespeople, not watch people, and they get a watch and flip it as quickly as they can. They probably have little knowledge of its history. Also, many of the watch people on eBay know to include any paper trails to authenticate claims of service as well as product authenticity.

You get a watch from a member on this forum or another watch forum who is a watch person, they probably know at least some of the history, and almost surely are wise enough to keep the receipts from when service was performed. Then there are also the ADs that sell used Breitlings here as well, which come with warranties. IMO that justifies paying a little extra as well, but that all is just my opinion based off personal experience and things I've read.


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sharkman wrote:
SimonC wrote:
Yes walk away I think is the most prudent course of action; if someone has an Emergency then you have to assume they will know a thing or two about the watch, this isn't a £2.99 Casio afterall; and of course you have to sign a document to state you will not deploy the transmitter unless it is a geniune emergency. Makes you worry about the potential choas the person could cause if he didn't know what the massive button at the bottom does and tries to turn it...!

Suspect its stolen - all the hallmarks of that going by what you have posted.



I'm siding with dlNYC here. Not saying I would buy it based only upon the owner thinking it didn't require service because it is a quartz. Most people don't know squat about the several thousand dollar watch on their wrist. But to say based on that limited exchange it has all the hallmarks of being stolen is ... well .... a bit of a stretch. Quoting one of my favorite TV shows and dating myself somewhat, "Let's be careful out there" not only in buying but also leaping to conclusions.


Im with you too.. Even people that I know that are into watches really have no idea about things that seem pretty basic to us.

In an auctio like the above, id just assume the worst and hope for the best. Worst case you end up with a $400 refurb bill (anything more any you paypal/CC dispute). Best case you have a new watch and be happy.

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