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Author:  dyna [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Help Identifying Breitling Model
Hi guys,

My father-in-law is a jeweler. His specialty is mounting diamonds. With the gold/diamond prices and economic situations being as they are he was forced to pawn his Breitling about a year ago. I didn't know about it until it was too late.

For X-Mas I want to replace his watch for him. I would really like to get him the same exact thing but don't feel I have the real specs yet.

Here is the best picture I could find:

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I am researching but what I can tell so far is that the watch is:

Steel bezel & case w/gold riders (B)
Two-Tone Rouleaux (Bullet) Bracelet
Finish seems brushed (not sure)
White Dial w/Gold Sub-Dials
Gold Crown/Buttons
Date at 3 o'clock

I cannot figure out what model (even series) or year made. I think it's a Windrider because of the Rouleaux bracelet. I know he had the watch before late 2002 when I met him.

Any help on finding the specs/model/year of this watch would be greatly apprecated.

Thanks,

CK
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Identifying Breitling Model
It's definitely a caliber 13 based Windrider, looks like an early Chronomat.
Author:  dyna [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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Roffensian wrote:
It's definitely a caliber 13 based Windrider, looks like an early Chronomat.


Thanks. By "caliber 13 based" you mean the movement right?
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:09 pm ]
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dyna wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
It's definitely a caliber 13 based Windrider, looks like an early Chronomat.


Thanks. By "caliber 13 based" you mean the movement right?



Yes.
Author:  angstfree [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:52 am ]
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May I tactfully recommend you get the pawn ticket
& bail his treasured watch out of detention. If you
cannot, try negotiating with the pawnbroker. Haggling
is common worldwide, & manages to get things done.
Author:  dyna [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Identifying Breitling Model
angstfree wrote:
May I tactfully recommend you get the pawn ticket
& bail his treasured watch out of detention. If you
cannot, try negotiating with the pawnbroker. Haggling
is common worldwide, & manages to get things done.


I appreciate your help but it's too late aka "gone". Also, I believe it was a handshake deal so there would be no ticket to get the model number from. Further, I wouldn't want to ask him or my mother-in-law anything about it because they would insist I just let it go. Knowing the conclusion of that discussion, I am going straight for the surprise.
Author:  Kodiak [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:29 pm ]
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Your pic is hard to see details, but if you remember anything about it, try this link to chronomat history, may be of some help (?)

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f39/breitl ... 13334.html
Author:  joe6263 [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:30 pm ]
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Hi

I don't know but is it like this one if found this one but i cant tell, Hears the link.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breitling-Lim ... 27ccb8ea9a
Author:  dyna [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:39 pm ]
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Material: I realize they made the Rouleaux band in polished and satin steel and I'm quite sure it was satin/brushed. I also remember that the case was all brushed (not brushed bezel and stainless bottom).

Dial: Geneva (1984 81950) should be out because the wings are not centered in the dial in my picture. From the picture I think the sub-dials have the bent edge and no trim (ie before 13050). I still am not sure if the dial says 1884 (13048) or not (13047). Since I cannot find an example anywhere of the B13048 with white/gold dials I am going to call it a 13047.

Second Hand: From the picture I cannot see if the second hand has the anchor. As you can see below they made the dual labeled 81.950/B13047 with and without the anchor second hand. So basically I would have to "see" the anchor or not to determine which version of the B13047 I need.

Maybe one of your more trained eyes can tell if if the second hand anchor is present or no...

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Author:  dyna [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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Kodiak wrote:
Your pic is hard to see details, but if you remember anything about it, try this link to chronomat history, may be of some help (?)

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f39/breitl ... 13334.html


Thanks. I am using that big time. You can probably tell from my above post. :-)


joe6263 wrote:
Hi

I don't know but is it like this one if found this one but i cant tell, Hears the link.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breitling-Lim ... 27ccb8ea9a


I appreciate that. I am getting pretty good. I could tell it was a 13050 before reading the description hehe. Sub-dial trim, 1884 and larger date window. So it's a couple generations newer than what i think I need. That being said the watch is superb. An upgrade from what he had. I might take a run at this one if the seller will consider selling out of country. Again, Thanks!
Author:  angstfree [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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I appreciate your help but it's too late aka "gone". Also, I believe it was a handshake deal so there would be no ticket to get the model number from. Further, I wouldn't want to ask him or my mother-in-law anything about it because they would insist I just let it go. Knowing the conclusion of that discussion, I am going straight for the surprise.[/quote]


My apologies & regrets, & hope you can locate a viable replacement.
Author:  dyna [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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Image

I am pretty sure the watch is at 12:35. That jives with the original file details. Assuming he kept his stop watch reset at 0:00, then it appears that any second hand anchor is not visible to the right of center between the center of the dial and the top of the 6 o'clock sub-dial.
Author:  dyna [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Identifying Breitling Model
I cannot find an example of a Rouleaux (Bullet) Bracelet where it has the gold inserts on the second bar like in his picture. Maybe he modified it? It could be unoriginal but I can find any of those either.
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:30 am ]
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dyna wrote:
I cannot find an example of a Rouleaux (Bullet) Bracelet where it has the gold inserts on the second bar like in his picture. Maybe he modified it? It could be unoriginal but I can find any of those either.



It was a stock bracelet.
Author:  dyna [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Identifying Breitling Model
Roffensian wrote:
It was a stock bracelet.


Do you know what I mean about the two gold ring inserts always starting on either the first or third "bullet"? This one starts on the second.

I know I am knit picking hehe... But thanks.
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