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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | breitling B1 question UPDATED WITH PICTURES |
Hi all does anybody know when breitling issued the chronometer cert with the B1, when on the dial it just said B1 and nothing else to indicate it was a chronometer certified watch also whats the difference between the A68032........and the........ A68362, ????? could someone also give me a guide price for a B1 with UTC on bracelet 2001 full B+P, in UK Pounds. Regards Mark 
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
If it is a68062 then it doesn't have a COSC, if it is a68362 then it does. There are versions of 68362 that do not have the chronometer indication on the dial. |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Roffensian wrote: If it is a68062 then it doesn't have a COSC, if it is a68362 then it does. There are versions of 68362 that do not have the chronometer indication on the dial. Hi it's the A68362 so that fit's in with the sale, one thing is this the super-quartz movement or did that come in later. or was there a change over period from quartz to super-quartz...... the knowledge on this site is fantastic. anybody got a price for this outfit. Regards mark |
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
mercmanuk wrote: Roffensian wrote: If it is a68062 then it doesn't have a COSC, if it is a68362 then it does. There are versions of 68362 that do not have the chronometer indication on the dial. Hi it's the A68362 so that fit's in with the sale, one thing is this the super-quartz movement or did that come in later. or was there a change over period from quartz to super-quartz...... the knowledge on this site is fantastic. If it's A68362, then as Roff said, it's chronometer rated, and in order for a quartz watch to be accurate enough to attain Quartz COSC rating, then it would have to SQ. So yes, it will have teh SQ movement. (Incidentally and just form info if you weren't aware - the "3" in the middle of the ref number denotes that it's chronometer/COSC rated. If it was a "0" then it wouldn't be). |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Driver8 wrote: mercmanuk wrote: Roffensian wrote: If it is a68062 then it doesn't have a COSC, if it is a68362 then it does. There are versions of 68362 that do not have the chronometer indication on the dial. Hi it's the A68362 so that fit's in with the sale, one thing is this the super-quartz movement or did that come in later. or was there a change over period from quartz to super-quartz...... the knowledge on this site is fantastic. If it's A68362, then as Roff said, it's chronometer rated, and in order for a quartz watch to be accurate enough to attain Quartz COSC rating, then it would have to SQ. So yes, it will have teh SQ movement. (Incidentally and just form info if you weren't aware - the "3" in the middle of the ref number denotes that it's chronometer/COSC rated. If it was a "0" then it wouldn't be). Not quite...... a68362 is chronometer certified regular quartz. The updated a78362 is the SQ variant. |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
So it's COSC rated but not super-quartz, that's fine as COSC is good enough for me. thanks all |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Been looking around and they look to be going for around £1,100-£1,250, depending on B+P and strap/bracelet, so i am hoping i got a good deal, will post some pic's as soon as it arrives it may be in need of a tickle here and there, but i have a watch service guy (Breitling who can get her running like new). cheers all. |
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| Author: | findo-400 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
All Breitlings from 2000 onward are COSC certified and has been mentioned the "3" in the middle of the model number denotes COSC certification. An A68062 is a pre 2000 model and an A68362 is a 2000 onwards model. The "A" denotes stainless steel (E is Titanium and D is yellow gold etc.)the "68" is the Caliber number, in this case the non Superquartz 68 movement, the 3 as mentioned is the COSC identifier and the "62" are the model identifiers for the B-1 and B-2, (the B-2 being an A42362 COSC certified or A42062 non COSC) The 78 movement is the Superquartz movement for the B-1 usually denoted by the word "Chronometre" appearing on the face as in Chronometre B-1 or Chronometre Emergency The SQ Emergency has the 76 movement the non SQ Emergency being the 56 movement.) A stainless steel Superquartz B-1 would have the model number A78362. HOWEVER, the limited edition Vulcan B-1 that I owned had the Chronometre B-1 inscription but it was a 68 non superquartz movement as seen here.  So don't always go by what is on the dial, check the model number. |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Hi Findo-400, Thanks for that information it's all becoming a bit clearer for me now, i noticed your B1 has the UTC with it, and a lovley watch it is. is there additional paperwork that comes from Breitling to support the UTC attachment with the watch. I have not seen many B1's with the UTC attachment are they rare in that owners find that they are keeper's rather than selling them on, and are they more expensive with the UTC attchment. Regards Mark |
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| Author: | Sharkmouth [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
A good place to read up on the B-1 is here http://www.donindiano.net/watches/breitling/b-1/ |
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Roffensian wrote: Not quite...... a68362 is chronometer certified regular quartz. The updated a78362 is the SQ variant. I stand corrected. I thought the B68 was SQ. Apols to the OP for the duff info! |
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| Author: | findo-400 [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
mercmanuk wrote: Hi Findo-400, Thanks for that information it's all becoming a bit clearer for me now, i noticed your B1 has the UTC with it, and a lovley watch it is. is there additional paperwork that comes from Breitling to support the UTC attachment with the watch. I have not seen many B1's with the UTC attachment are they rare in that owners find that they are keeper's rather than selling them on, and are they more expensive with the UTC attchment. Regards Mark Hi Mark Having owned 7 UTC's over the years, when it comes to selling a watch I used to keep the UTC's as we are talking hens teeth and the droppings from hobby-horses when it comes to picking one up. An A7O174 (which is what you need for a B-1/B-2/Crosswind/Headwind etc.) on a leather strap not a Fighter bracelet, went recently on a well known website for just over £400. I have seen one on a Fighter bracelet go for twice that price. The issue isnt the UTC, it's the end link on the A877 UTC bracelet (The full size Fighter bracelet for the B-1 and 2 is the A874) that is the rare beastie. If you can get hold of a B-1 with the UTC fitted, grab it with both hands. NOTE. You can't adapt the full size A874 to fit the UTC. You need the A877 kit to make it fit if you want a bracelet. Also, if you can pick up a UTC on a Fighter bracelet and the UTC doesn't match the watch you have, still buy it. You can always have Breitling do a dial change. It'll cost you a full service plus the cost of the dial but it's worth it. I have done this many times. If you're interested PM me re the Crosswind/Headwind data and I'll bore you some more  Good luck with the search Mark |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Hi Findo-400, i am very interested, there's a guy at my photography club who says he has one for sale, he wants to sell it to raise funds for a Canon 70-200mm MRKII lens L series, he's bringing it over this afternoon for me to look at we have not discussed money yet, but i have the said Len's and there could be a trade or some sort there, as soon as i get hold i will put up some pictures, Findo=400 yes please PM me about the headwind etc the information will be helpful. Once again thank you for you time and knowledge Regards Mark |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
Hi findo-400 my freind turned up today and left this for my inspection and he took my mark 1 70 200 2.8 is L lens to try, he wants a trade what do you think. It was bought by his father from Goldsmiths Manchester in 2001, all the serial numbers match and all the paper work is there, it's been worn about 10 times and the battery replaced by breitling in 2011 for both watch and UTC he is finding the paperwork for this. anyway some pictures box is crisp and very slight wear to corners.  the inner box is bright and as new.  the paperwork has stickers attached.  the paperwork serial numbers match and is crisp and unused.  the inner box is mint  this is mint as well as are the spare links  The Watch is in A+ condition not mint a few swirls  very few marks at all  all the functions work perfectly a few more pics in the post below Regards Mark |
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| Author: | mercmanuk [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breitling B1 question |
More Pic's         , The AR coating is unmarked, i was frightened the watch would need some TLC, but i am just as frightened it's turned up in this condition, this has been tucked away for 11 years i have never seen a finer B1 but B1+UTC. it's like it's brand new. My photo's do not do it justice it's a lot better in the flesh. opinions please, does the bracelet look right the link on the UTC side of the bracelet says S1799 according to my daughters eyes no stretch and brushed center link. . do you think it's worth a trade of a £1000.00 lens Regards Mark |
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