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Author:  Tombee [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Breitling watches are mostly inaccurate? Surely not...

I'm having a conversation with a guy in another forum and he posted this.

"My Breitling was brand new. Took it back two or three times (to Beaverbrooks) but nothing changed. Then on a visit to a Brietling retailer in Dubai I was told that my complaint was not unusual because 'they're mostly inaccurate"."

Can this be true?

Someone else added:

"Breitling ±6 seconds per 24 hours. Seiko ±11 seconds per year."
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
pure bull, probably comparing mechanical and Quartz

lots of threads about this, Breitling are certified to be in COSC range
Author:  Tombee [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Thanks. I knew something didn't quite add up - but I lack the knowledge about the subject to say anything different. I just like the look of them and know not how they work.

Thanks again

Edit: I told him what you said and now he says this:

"COSC allows -4 to +6 seconds per day averaged over 15 days."
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
The Breitling / Seiko comparison is a little ludicrous because as Fred notes, it's comparing mechanical with quartz. The COSC standard for mechanical is -4 to +6 seconds per day - that's what the Swiss watch industry deems to be the mark of a chronometer - a highly accurate Swiss watch. Every single Breitling movement is tested and certified by the COSC and you get the certificate with your watch.
Author:  wessa [ Tue May 29, 2012 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
I own 10 Breitling watches, some brand new and some up to 15 years old models (Fred has grand fathers, so mine are actually babies)
All of my watches perform within COSC specs even though some are not COSC certified as they date date from the "dark ages" before Breitling decided to certify all of their movements.
Granted, I like to keep my watches in an immaculate condition so every single used watch I buy and unless still under a new watch warranty goes to Breitling for an overhaul service by default, simply so I know what I have. After that they all perform perfect.
Call me crazy, well that's me. Than again if I was not crazy, I would not be sitting here typing this post at 1 AM and I would not be holding on to 20+ watches ;-)
Author:  sharkman [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
To the OP - the dude is a buffoon when it comes to watches! A $10 Timex quartz will keep better time than the finest $100,000 mechanical watch. If he doesn't get that, he has no business discussing watches. All chronometers are within -4/+6 sec/day, including Rolex.

I hope he enjoys his "highly accurate" $90 POS Seiko while tooling down the road in his "highly economical" Ford Escort. Vroom vroom.


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Author:  Scott [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Trolls are "mostly idiots". As we already know, this little obsession is understandable only to those who "get it", who can appreciate the intricacies of the complex little machine that is a mechanical watch. And for those who are genuinely bothered by "Seiko guy" a Breitling quartz can take care of that.
Author:  Driver8 [ Tue May 29, 2012 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Tombee wrote:
Someone else added:

"Breitling ±6 seconds per 24 hours. Seiko ±11 seconds per year."

:roll: As Sharkman said, that "someone" shouldn't be posting on a watch forum with comments like that. What a prat.
Author:  wessa [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Driver8 wrote:
Tombee wrote:
Someone else added:

"Breitling ±6 seconds per 24 hours. Seiko ±11 seconds per year."

.


That's it! Selling all my Breitlings and getting a Seiko!
But wait a minute, I already have a Seiko!

:huh
Author:  kircheis7 [ Tue May 29, 2012 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Even when you compare two Seikos, highend Grand Seiko mechanical watch can hardly match the accuracy of cheap lowend Quartz Seiko.
Author:  wessa [ Wed May 30, 2012 12:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Tombee wrote:
Seiko ±11 seconds per year."


That's pretty bad, my $50 Timex only lost 1 sec in the last 3 months.
Funny that, it's the "reference clock" for my collection :-)

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Author:  46crew [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
Roffensian wrote:
The Breitling / Seiko comparison is a little ludicrous because as Fred notes, it's comparing mechanical with quartz. The COSC standard for mechanical is -4 to +6 seconds per day - that's what the Swiss watch industry deems to be the mark of a chronometer - a highly accurate Swiss watch. Every single Breitling movement is tested and certified by the COSC and you get the certificate with your watch.


True, unless you are referring to Seiko's spring drive. Those puppies are super accurate and exceed COSC standards of accuracy.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Wed May 30, 2012 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
46crew wrote:
True, unless you are referring to Seiko's spring drive. Those puppies are super accurate and exceed COSC standards of accuracy.

Seiko Spring Drives aren't purely mechanical watches, so it's still an apples-to-oranges comparison. Besides, Spring Drives are rated to be accurate within +/- 1 second a day - definitely more accurate than a mechanical, but still less accurate than quartz.

Not to sound like a Breitling fanboy (which I'm most assuredly not), but if I wanted a really accurate watch, I would go with a Breitling Superquartz. Those are even more accurate than standard quartz watches.
Author:  46crew [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
JacksonStone wrote:
46crew wrote:
True, unless you are referring to Seiko's spring drive. Those puppies are super accurate and exceed COSC standards of accuracy.

Seiko Spring Drives aren't purely mechanical watches, so it's still an apples-to-oranges comparison. Besides, Spring Drives are rated to be accurate within +/- 1 second a day - definitely more accurate than a mechanical, but still less accurate than quartz.

Not to sound like a Breitling fanboy (which I'm most assuredly not), but if I wanted a really accurate watch, I would go with a Breitling Superquartz. Those are even more accurate than standard quartz watches.


I will always have at least one SQ Breitling. Best quartz movement, period. End of discussion. :wink:

As far as Seiko spring drive, forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between mechanical and spring drive? I don't know a whole lot about them other than their movement is unique and very accurate.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling: "Mostly inaccurate"
46crew wrote:
As far as Seiko spring drive, forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between mechanical and spring drive? I don't know a whole lot about them other than their movement is unique and very accurate.

That's OK, I'm not entirely knowledgeable about them, either. I don't know exactly how they work, but my understanding is they are essentially a hybrid movement - a mechanical watch that is enhanced with a quartz crystal for accuracy. It's more mechanical that a quartz movement, but not purely mechanical, insofar as it uses quartz and an electronic circuit as part of its makeup.

While they look like interesting movements, I have to say I'm not entirely sure what the point of them is. They're still not as accurate as quartz movements, and they're not purely mechanical. If I want accuracy, I would go for quartz, thermo-compensated quartz, or radio-controlled. If I want mechanical, I'm going to go for a mechanical watch. A Spring Drive would seem to fall through the cracks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Drive
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