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Author:  Novacastrian [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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I'm not sure if referring to other blogs etc is allowed (Mods feel free to delete) but an interesting take on the Navi design here. I hope Breitling don't see the orange one; we could be in real trouble.

http://www.ablogtoread.com/watch-what-i ... navitimer/
Author:  mfserge [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:21 pm ]
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I LOVE the look of that blacksteel navitimer. If Breitling would make an inhouse Navi with a black ceramic case, just like that photo (and not DLC or PVD) then it would be a real winner!!!!!!!!!
Author:  Sharkmouth [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:35 am ]
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Very good work, better than most of Breitling's own recent efforts.

The one with the prop reminds me of a Corum model.
Author:  Driver8 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:02 am ]
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Very nicely done artwork, but most of those aren't yanking my chain TBH. The first one is clearly the bastard son of a Navi and Rolie GMT, and I agree with Sharky that the prop one is just way too "comedic" and Corum for my liking.

The all black Navi looks very cool (although it's definitely crying out for a black date wheel), but as Sergio said if it was yet another DLC job it'd be a no-no. A ceramic Navi on the other hand would be awesome (even if it was just the head), but the absolute best Navi IMO would be a tantalum version with a full tantalum Navi bracelet. Now that WOULD be something to see.

Sadly, I think the only one Breitling would actually be likely to make is that black and orange abortion. Please, please, pleeeeeeease no-one vote for it!!
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:03 am ]
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I think that we are fairly safe with the orange one given that it isn't actually a Navitimer without the Navitimer sliderule. Black is the best for me, but does need the black date wheel as Driver8 noted and does need to be anything but DLC.
Author:  jnelson3097 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:03 am ]
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Based on recent history, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like the orange bezel that they show. The ceramic case would be something I'd like to see.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:16 pm ]
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Wouldn't a ceramic case be more prone to cracking/chipping/breaking?

I'm not familiar with tantalum. How similar is it to tungsten carbide?
Author:  Driver8 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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JacksonStone wrote:
Wouldn't a ceramic case be more prone to cracking/chipping/breaking?

I'm not familiar with tantalum. How similar is it to tungsten carbide?

The whole "ceramic being brittle" thing is highly over-egged IMO. Yes it can crack on account of it being extremely hard, but a knock that's hard enough to crack it would also do some serious damage to a steel watch too.

Tantalum is quite rare and is very hard and dense although not as much as tungsten. Plus it's a very cool dark grey/blue colour. Here's a tantalum Panerai - great colour!

http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/imag ... anerai.htm
Author:  KMG [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:51 am ]
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JacksonStone wrote:
Wouldn't a ceramic case be more prone to cracking/chipping/breaking?

I'm not familiar with tantalum. How similar is it to tungsten carbide?


Well, here is my experience of 'other' materials. I'm interested to hear what people think.

I had a ring made of Haematite (iron ore crystal) which I was led to believe is VERY strong. It was strong and a lovely colour (a very deep and rich gun metal grey) but one day I hit it against a machine which swallowed my money and it shattered. End of Haematite ring. :cry: .

Then I saw a ring owned by a friend which was a very similar colour to the Haematite (slightly lighter and more of a silvery gun metal colour). It was Tungsten Carbide and I have one now (I've had it for about a year and haven't managed to shatter it yet nor scratch it :) ). It would be a fabulous material to make a watch case out of IMHO but I don't know the mechanics of making it in the right shape and nor how you would machine it.
:lingsrock:
Author:  JacksonStone [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:20 pm ]
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KMG wrote:
It was Tungsten Carbide and I have one now (I've had it for about a year and haven't managed to shatter it yet nor scratch it :) ). It would be a fabulous material to make a watch case out of IMHO but I don't know the mechanics of making it in the right shape and nor how you would machine it.

I have a Movado in tungsten carbide. I've had it for over six years, and it looks almost as good as new, although I was surprised in looking at it the other day to see a few hairline scratches on one of the links. Nothing like what you get with steel, though. Except for that one little area, there isn't so much as a ding on it. I'd be interested in seeing more watches made out of it.
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:29 pm ]
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Way off topic, but haematite and tungsten carbide aren't even in the same league when it comes to hardness - Vickers rating is 2242 for TC, only around 1,000 for haematite (316L steel is 140)
Author:  KMG [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:35 pm ]
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Thanks JacksonStone and Roff,

Yes I agree, way off topic but interesting all the same :geek: .
:lingsrock:
Author:  Driver8 [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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JacksonStone wrote:
KMG wrote:
It was Tungsten Carbide and I have one now (I've had it for about a year and haven't managed to shatter it yet nor scratch it :) ). It would be a fabulous material to make a watch case out of IMHO but I don't know the mechanics of making it in the right shape and nor how you would machine it.

I have a Movado in tungsten carbide. I've had it for over six years, and it looks almost as good as new, although I was surprised in looking at it the other day to see a few hairline scratches on one of the links. Nothing like what you get with steel, though. Except for that one little area, there isn't so much as a ding on it. I'd be interested in seeing more watches made out of it.

I have a Lum Tec M25 made of tungsten, and it's not got a single scratch after a year and a half of wear, and that includes knocking it on a couple of things. My review of it is here.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23603

Absolutely brilliant material for watch cases.
Author:  KMG [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:42 pm ]
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Driver8 wrote:
I have a Lum Tec M25 made of tungsten, and it's not got a single scratch after a year and a half of wear, and that includes knocking it on a couple of things. My review of it is here.

http://breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =6&t=23603

Absolutely brilliant material for watch cases.


Just had a look Driver - that watch is a real beauty :drool: .
Author:  raymond147 [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:47 am ]
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that blackdialed navi is awesome!!!!!
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