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| Author: | Brez [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Quick question about manually winding my B01 movement. I've had the watch for over a month now. Initially I wound the watch 40 times and felt a little pressure and stopped. I wore the watch for 2 weeks and put it on a winder (750 TPD) at night and yesterday wound it 37 times. Ok so yesterday I did not put it in the winder and today I gave it 40 turns or so again? The manual states to wind approximately 40 turns for complete power reserve. My question is: Is there a stop when you manually wind it so that you know that it is full? I know there is a clutch system in the movement calibre 01 so you don't overwind, but do you get some kind of feed back that it is fully wound or can you continuously spin the crown? Thanks in advance Brez |
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| Author: | guyc [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
There is no feedback,, you can continue spinning the crown without damaging the movement. Great watch by the way! |
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| Author: | Brez [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Thanks! that's what I thought! I'm absolutely finding it awesome. It is also my first non-metal bracelet, and I really like the croc/deployant. The watch was running about 16 sec/day fast during the break in period (about 3 weeks). Now it has runned +5 sec/day while on winder and daily wear (for last two weeks). I still find it unbelievable that 350 pieces of metal which moves together for 86,400 secs per day is only off by 5! Cheers Brez PS. Yours too! |
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| Author: | sharkman [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Automatic watches have a clutch-type design in the mainspring barrel. The outer end of the mainspring is not attached to the barrel like in manual wind watches. It bascially sits in grooves or cutouts in the inner side of the barrel. When the tension on the mainspring is full, the end of the mainspring simply slips out of one groove or serration and comes to rest in another. There is no reason that you need to keep winding it manually though. If it has a full wind and you are either wearing it or have it on winder, it should remain fully wound. |
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| Author: | Brez [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Thanks Sharkman, Just my innexperience with Automatic watches. I initially thought that approximately 40 turns you would feel a stop and you would know that it is fully wound. So, testing it on the winder after two weeks and I was able to turn 37 times I figure it was close to empty! But now I know better. Thanks As an aside any issues with wearing the watch all day and at night putting it in the winder? Cheers Brez |
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| Author: | sharkman [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Brez wrote: Thanks Sharkman, As an aside any issues with wearing the watch all day and at night putting it in the winder? Cheers Brez Nope you're good! (pretty exciting, eh?  )
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| Author: | Brez [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
sharkman wrote: Brez wrote: Thanks Sharkman, As an aside any issues with wearing the watch all day and at night putting it in the winder? Cheers Brez Nope you're good! (pretty exciting, eh? )Yep, and it's awesome to be able to look at that movement. It's a bummer that others are having any issues with theirs. Like you I watching my chrono like a hawk! Cheers Brez |
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| Author: | supertaz1 [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
If the watch is your daily ware why wind it manually at all ? If you switch it out with other watches in your collection on a daily basis then follow the wind instructions offered by the others. Great watch by the way !!! |
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| Author: | Brez [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
supertaz1 wrote: If the watch is your daily ware why wind it manually at all ? If you switch it out with other watches in your collection on a daily basis then follow the wind instructions offered by the others. Great watch by the way !!! I where my TO at home/out. I wear my Wolf at work. So I guess in the big scheme of things it's at least 8ish hours/day. Cheers Brez |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
sharkman wrote: Automatic watches have a clutch-type design in the mainspring barrel. The outer end of the mainspring is not attached to the barrel like in manual wind watches. It bascially sits in grooves or cutouts in the inner side of the barrel. When the tension on the mainspring is full, the end of the mainspring simply slips out of one groove or serration and comes to rest in another. Well, close enough
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| Author: | ewen [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Unless its my imagination, I can hear a slight change in the sound after winding for a while. On a watch that had totally wound down, the sound changes around the 30 / 40 wind mark, sooner on a watch just worn...an additional tinny tinkle on top of the normal clicking is how I'd describe it. Most noticeable on the Legende perhaps, least on the Blackbird. Dont know if its the same on my TO as I've not needed to wind her since purchase. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
ewen wrote: Unless its my imagination, I can hear a slight change in the sound after winding for a while. On a watch that had totally wound down, the sound changes around the 30 / 40 wind mark, sooner on a watch just worn...an additional tinny tinkle on top of the normal clicking is how I'd describe it. Most noticeable on the Legende perhaps, least on the Blackbird. Dont know if its the same on my TO as I've not needed to wind her since purchase. A few people have said that before, but there really isn't any logic to it. There is nothing inherent to the movement / mainspring / etc that would cause any additional noise. |
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| Author: | sharkman [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
Roffensian wrote: ewen wrote: Unless its my imagination, I can hear a slight change in the sound after winding for a while. On a watch that had totally wound down, the sound changes around the 30 / 40 wind mark, sooner on a watch just worn...an additional tinny tinkle on top of the normal clicking is how I'd describe it. Most noticeable on the Legende perhaps, least on the Blackbird. Dont know if its the same on my TO as I've not needed to wind her since purchase. A few people have said that before, but there really isn't any logic to it. There is nothing inherent to the movement / mainspring / etc that would cause any additional noise. What I hear on some watches is a very slight click at fully wound. I suppose it could be my imagination, but is it possible that is the sound of the bridle slipping against the inside wall of the barrel and then catching in another serration? Or do Breitlings use a different clutch-type mechanism? |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
sharkman wrote: Roffensian wrote: ewen wrote: Unless its my imagination, I can hear a slight change in the sound after winding for a while. On a watch that had totally wound down, the sound changes around the 30 / 40 wind mark, sooner on a watch just worn...an additional tinny tinkle on top of the normal clicking is how I'd describe it. Most noticeable on the Legende perhaps, least on the Blackbird. Dont know if its the same on my TO as I've not needed to wind her since purchase. A few people have said that before, but there really isn't any logic to it. There is nothing inherent to the movement / mainspring / etc that would cause any additional noise. What I hear on some watches is a very slight click at fully wound. I suppose it could be my imagination, but is it possible that is the sound of the bridle slipping against the inside wall of the barrel and then catching in another serration? Or do Breitlings use a different clutch-type mechanism? Breitling uses bridled mainsprings, so it's possible I guess, but my hearing's nowhere near that good. A mainspring in a barrel doesn't make much noise, especially when the much noisier click is still going to be making noise. |
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| Author: | Brez [ Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Question on winding my TO Chronograph |
The first time I fully wound my TO I heard a small click at around 38 turns. It also felt a little stiffer to turn the crown. The second time I fully wound the TO there was no click but it did feel stiffer after 42 turns so I stopped, thinking it was the end. After that the watch was on the winder. The third time I fully manually wound the watch was roughly two weeks later where there was no resistance or click. The next day I fully wound it again and still no click or resistance. That's what triggered my original question. |
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