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Author: | breanach78 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
Looking at the Sub C. again today and its SUPER bracelet, got me thinking..... WHY don't Breitling incorporate the OR type system into their bracelets. The patent must be in place so whats the problem? Come Breitling get the finger out! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | nr123 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
OR?? I checked the abbreviation thing, add it Roff and tell me what it means. |
Author: | RJRJRJ [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
nr123 wrote: OR?? I checked the abbreviation thing, add it Roff and tell me what it means. Ocean Racer. The deployant clasp on the rubber straps. |
Author: | nr123 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
Thanks RJ! |
Author: | JacksonStone [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
To elaborate, the Ocean Racer clasp is an "on the fly" adjustable clasp, and is outstanding in its quality and function. It doesn't have the range of adjustment that the Sub-C's clasp has, but it's enough to allow for wrist expansion in the heat. It also incorporates a push-button deployant, and is great looking to boot. It's one of Breitling's best clasps, if not the best. Why it should be reserved solely for rubber straps is beyond me. It belongs on all of their bracelets, imo. |
Author: | sharkman [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
Not so sure it is sturdy enough to battle a heavy SS bracelet over the long haul. A beefed up version would necessary IMO. Really though, the Breitling bracelet claps are pretty damn good as Swiss watch companies go. Most many high end manufacturers rely entirely on a half link or just regular links for adjustment and fitting. The current clasp is comfortable, not too bulky, and has good micro adjustment. This is one area I am not inclined to criticize Breitling. |
Author: | RXPete [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
JacksonStone wrote: It's one of Breitling's best clasps, if not the best. Why it should be reserved solely for rubber straps is beyond me. It belongs on all of their bracelets, imo. I love to see it on leather and croc also as I don't think breitling's current deployant is a good design. The ling man modified his croc to fit one. It was really nice. |
Author: | breanach78 [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
sharkman wrote: Not so sure it is sturdy enough to battle a heavy SS bracelet over the long haul. A beefed up version would necessary IMO. Really though, the Breitling bracelet claps are pretty damn good as Swiss watch companies go. Most many high end manufacturers rely entirely on a half link or just regular links for adjustment and fitting. The current clasp is comfortable, not too bulky, and has good micro adjustment. This is one area I am not inclined to criticize Breitling. I truly wish I could agree but to me anyway my 1000e Longines clasp is ahead in overall quality. |
Author: | JacksonStone [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
sharkman wrote: Not so sure it is sturdy enough to battle a heavy SS bracelet over the long haul. A beefed up version would necessary IMO. Really though, the Breitling bracelet claps are pretty damn good as Swiss watch companies go. Most many high end manufacturers rely entirely on a half link or just regular links for adjustment and fitting. The current clasp is comfortable, not too bulky, and has good micro adjustment. This is one area I am not inclined to criticize Breitling. I agree that Breitling makes some of the best bracelets, and the clasps are in line with that level of quality. But that doesn't mean they can't be better. I would see a beefed-up OR clasp integrated into a Pilot, Navi or Speed as an improvement. I don't think it's a criticism to point out where things could be improved upon. That said, I could certainly live with the clasps as they are currently. Given Breitling's other shortcomings of late, the clasps are the least of my concerns with the brand. I will point out, for those who cite Rolex's Glidelock clasp as proof the bar has been raised, the Glidelock is Rolex's answer to the diver extension. Only the Sub-C and DSSD have it (and the DSSD's version is not as good, imo). All other Rolexes with updated Oyster bracelets have the Easylink, which is an all-or-nothing 5mm extension. Although it can be used on the fly, in the end, it doesn't offer as much adjustability as Breitling's micro-adjustment on their current clasps. |
Author: | sharkman [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
breanach78 wrote: sharkman wrote: Not so sure it is sturdy enough to battle a heavy SS bracelet over the long haul. A beefed up version would necessary IMO. Really though, the Breitling bracelet claps are pretty damn good as Swiss watch companies go. Most many high end manufacturers rely entirely on a half link or just regular links for adjustment and fitting. The current clasp is comfortable, not too bulky, and has good micro adjustment. This is one area I am not inclined to criticize Breitling. I truly wish I could agree but to me anyway my 1000e Longines clasp is ahead in overall quality. I did not say Breitling clasps are the best or other brands do not have better bracelet/clasp options - I've owned a couple Sub Cs and JLC makes a bifold bracelet clasp with 5mm quick adjustments on both sides (of course you can buy a nice watch for what it costs!). But Breitling is well above the majority. A couple examples - IWC uses a high tech link removal mechanism. It's very cool. Yet the bracelets are thin and tinny and adjustment relies entirely on a half link. Omega mainly relies on a half link. Breguet and Zenith typically don't even have a half link. Given their claps are somewhere in the upper tier, I'd rather Breitling address other problems before they add $1,000 for a new super-clasp. Edit - the Rolex Easy Link is mostly ok. I ordered a Sub half link and use it on the GMTIIc bracelet. It allows me to maximize the function of the Easy Link and Rolex should include a half link on all bracelets fitted with the Easy Link clasp. |
Author: | breanach78 [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
To be fair I have not owned many other brands to compare the clasp with. Its mostly Breitling I have owned so I ll realy have to give that to SM. All i have to go on is the sub c i am trying to get my hands on. All I am saying breitling give us something and they may have it in there OR. . . . |
Author: | sharkman [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
breanach78 wrote: To be fair I have not owned many other brands to compare the clasp with. Its mostly Breitling I have owned so I ll realy have to give that to SM. All i have to go on is the sub c i am trying to get my hands on. All I am saying breitling give us something and they may have it in there OR. . . . Got it. Remember that a Sub used to retail for about $6K. Yes they put a ceramic besel insert in but most of the $2k price increase is in the bracelet and clasp. I would prefer some price stability over a redesigned clasp mechanism. But that is just my opinion. |
Author: | JacksonStone [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
sharkman wrote: Yes they put a ceramic besel insert in but most of the $2k price increase is in the bracelet and clasp. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but when the Sub-C first came out in late summer 2010, it retailed at $7200 USD, and was only $1200 more than the 16610LN at that time. The rest of the increase has just been the insane price hikes that have happened over the past year. That said, I am in complete agreement with you, now that I think about it some more. It's one thing to idly fantasize about what ideal features I'd like to see on a watch. But given Breitling's already astronomical prices, I'm in no hurry to see them add even more expensive features to what are already outstanding bracelets. I'd rather see them get their watch designs straightened out first. |
Author: | breanach78 [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
JacksonStone wrote: sharkman wrote: Yes they put a ceramic besel insert in but most of the $2k price increase is in the bracelet and clasp. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but when the Sub-C first came out in late summer 2010, it retailed at $7200 USD, and was only $1200 more than the 16610LN at that time. The rest of the increase has just been the insane price hikes that have happened over the past year. That said, I am in complete agreement with you, now that I think about it some more. It's one thing to idly fantasize about what ideal features I'd like to see on a watch. But given Breitling's already astronomical prices, I'm in no hurry to see them add even more expensive features to what are already outstanding bracelets. I'd rather see them get their watch designs straightened out first. Very Very true. I never thought about the 1000E that they would throw onto their already silly pricing. Like I said in "Nuts" 5550E for a SOCII. Fancy one for 6550E... All for about 5mm.. ![]() |
Author: | RJRJRJ [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Come on Breitling Get The finger Out! |
JacksonStone wrote: sharkman wrote: Not so sure it is sturdy enough to battle a heavy SS bracelet over the long haul. A beefed up version would necessary IMO. Really though, the Breitling bracelet claps are pretty damn good as Swiss watch companies go. Most many high end manufacturers rely entirely on a half link or just regular links for adjustment and fitting. The current clasp is comfortable, not too bulky, and has good micro adjustment. This is one area I am not inclined to criticize Breitling. I agree that Breitling makes some of the best bracelets, and the clasps are in line with that level of quality. But that doesn't mean they can't be better. I would see a beefed-up OR clasp integrated into a Pilot, Navi or Speed as an improvement. I don't think it's a criticism to point out where things could be improved upon. That said, I could certainly live with the clasps as they are currently. Given Breitling's other shortcomings of late, the clasps are the least of my concerns with the brand. I will point out, for those who cite Rolex's Glidelock clasp as proof the bar has been raised, the Glidelock is Rolex's answer to the diver extension. Only the Sub-C and DSSD have it (and the DSSD's version is not as good, imo). All other Rolexes with updated Oyster bracelets have the Easylink, which is an all-or-nothing 5mm extension. Although it can be used on the fly, in the end, it doesn't offer as much adjustability as Breitling's micro-adjustment on their current clasps. I thought the easy link was stupid at first, but I really like it a lot now. Ive found the perfect fit with it locked, and the simple extension is so easy to use and it opens it up just the right amount for me. |
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