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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:09 pm 
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If I'm correct, a Super Avenger is meant to have a reserve of about 42 hours.

If I fully wind it (40 times) and leave it on the desk it run itself down, it does indeed meet this reserve.

But I've found that on two occasions when wearing the watch daily for about 10 days, it would stop the next morningand I would have to set the time and wind it again.

Is the movement from daily activities not enough to keep the watch running indefinetly?

This brings me to my second question which is, would it damage the watch at all if say, after a week of daily wear I gave the watch about 30 winds before going to bed to prevent the watch from stopping?


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jloyd wrote:
Is the movement from daily activities not enough to keep the watch running indefinetly?

Yes, daily activities should be more than enough to keep a watch running pretty much indefinitely, provided you a) wear the watch enough - i.e. at least 10 to 12 hours or so a day, and b) you move above enough - i.e. you aren't bed-ridden or anything.

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This brings me to my second question which is, would it damage the watch at all if say, after a week of daily wear I gave the watch about 30 winds before going to bed to prevent the watch from stopping?

No, it won't cause any damage at all (barring anything like cross-threading the crown by accident of course!)

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I wear my watch for about 12 hours a day.
Walking to and back from tube station (20 mins return) and normal office activities, ie. typing on computer, tending the phone, writing etc

Would have thought this would be enough to keep my watch going. Any reason why it might be stopping just after a week?


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jloyd wrote:
I wear my watch for about 12 hours a day.
Walking to and back from tube station (20 mins return) and normal office activities, ie. typing on computer, tending the phone, writing etc

Would have thought this would be enough to keep my watch going. Any reason why it might be stopping just after a week?

OK, that should be more than enough. Sounds like you might have an issue with your watch there. I'd suggest popping into an AD asap.

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Driver8 wrote:
jloyd wrote:
I wear my watch for about 12 hours a day.
Walking to and back from tube station (20 mins return) and normal office activities, ie. typing on computer, tending the phone, writing etc

Would have thought this would be enough to keep my watch going. Any reason why it might be stopping just after a week?

OK, that should be more than enough. Sounds like you might have an issue with your watch there. I'd suggest popping into an AD asap.

yes, definitely

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Definitely worth checking it out, if the reserve is OK then the problem would have to be in the automatic winding, but it might just be that you aren't moving enough.

Typing on a keyboard doesn't involve much wrist movement, and if you areright handed with the watch on your left wrist then writing, phone, etc may not give you enough.

As said winding won't hurt until you can get the watch checked.


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jloyd wrote:
Walking to and back from tube station (20 mins return) and normal office activities, ie. typing on computer, tending the phone, writing etc.

I'm with Roff on this one. Although you might have the watch on your wrist for 12 hours a day, it sounds like for a good number of those hours, you're not moving enough to keep it wound. It's possible there's something wrong with the winding mechanism, but I'm inclined to think you might want to test it more yourself before going to the trouble of taking it into an AD. One way to test it would be if you have a winder. Give the watch a full manual wind, then place it on the winder for a couple weeks and see if it stops. One way or the other, you'll get an answer.


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Sorry guys, but personally I think the OP is doing more than enough to keep it wound if the watch is working correctly. I have an office job as well, and I've never yet had a watch stop me, even if it's just been sitting on my nightstand overnight (i.e. not in a winder..... obviously! :wink: ).

It'll be interesting to find out if the watch has a problem of not.

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Driver8 wrote:
Sorry guys, but personally I think the OP is doing more than enough to keep it wound if the watch is working correctly. I have an office job as well, and I've never yet had a watch stop me, even if it's just been sitting on my nightstand overnight (i.e. not in a winder..... obviously! :wink: ).

It'll be interesting to find out if the watch has a problem of not.



Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the stated 12 hours on / 12 off, makes a big difference relative to a (say) 16 on / 8 off mode. Not only 4 hours more of winding, but 4 hours less of running down each day.


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I still say leaving the watch on a winder for a couple weeks would help with the diagnosis, and could rule out a problem altogether. Obviously if the OP doesn't have a winder, that won't work; but if he does, why not try that and see what happens, rather than speculate as to whether or not the watch is being wound sufficiently?


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Sorry guys, but personally I think the OP is doing more than enough to keep it wound if the watch is working correctly. I have an office job as well, and I've never yet had a watch stop me.


Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the stated 12 hours on / 12 off, makes a big difference relative to a (say) 16 on / 8 off mode. Not only 4 hours more of winding, but 4 hours less of running down each day.

Hmmm, that's a reasonable point actually. I tend to put my watch on at 8AM and I won't take it off till 12AM-ish as I tend to go to bed pretty late, so there's 16 hours of wear right there.

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hi guys, I had just about the same problem a few weeks ago, waking up and finding my Chrono Avenger working but an hour or so behind. This morning I woke up to a stopped watch and no amount of winding and shaking seems to be able to coax it into life again. That is, if I shake it it will start ticking for 10, maybe 15 seconds and then stop again. Having had numerous issues with this watch (there was a time when it would lag 2 seonds every minute and neded the whole movement replaced) I'm starting to lose faith in the brand... I really hope your symptoms won't develop in a bricked watch but just in case, you might want to bring it to someone to check it out...I know I'll have to drive to switzerland to get to the nearest authorized dealer :|


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That is, if I shake it it will start ticking for 10, maybe 15 seconds and then stop again.

Simply shaking it may not be giving it enough juice to keep running, but obviously giving it a full wind should not only start it back up, but should also give it a full power reserve. If it still isn't running, then yeah, that's a big problem. Sorry you're having that issue, especially since you've had problems before; I hope you get it sorted out.


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JacksonStone wrote:
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That is, if I shake it it will start ticking for 10, maybe 15 seconds and then stop again.

Simply shaking it may not be giving it enough juice to keep running, but obviously giving it a full wind should not only start it back up, but should also give it a full power reserve. If it still isn't running, then yeah, that's a big problem. Sorry you're having that issue, especially since you've had problems before; I hope you get it sorted out.



Well, if it's out of beat then a full wind won't necessarily start it, although shaking it would (although that's not recommended - rotating it through 360 degrees is much better). Not sure how old it is / how long since the replacement movement was put in, but it may be an indication of a service need.


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Roffensian wrote:
Well, if it's out of beat then a full wind won't necessarily start it...

Help me out, Roff - what does 'out of beat' mean?


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