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Author:  mrcheatle [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Navitimer Cleaning
As many already know I will be the proud owner of a Navitimer World in the next month of so. I was curious to ask since the Navi line isn't very water friendly....how do you go about cleaning the watch? Do you use any water at all? Any opinions are much appreciated!
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
Discussed many times before, soft toothbrush and dish soap and just trickling water.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
The Navi World has a WR rating of 3 bars, which is roughly 20 meters, or roughly 65 feet. Everything I've read indicates that one should not expect the watch to be able to withstand such depths for extended periods, but it also means your watch shouldn't act like the Wicked Witch of the West if it should get splashed a little bit. It's not like it doesn't have any water resistance at all; it's just not a dive watch. Cleaning with a bit of water or soap solution should be fine.
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
JacksonStone wrote:
The Navi World has a WR rating of 3 bars, which is roughly 20 meters, or roughly 65 feet. Everything I've read indicates that one should not expect the watch to be able to withstand such depths for extended periods, but it also means your watch shouldn't act like the Wicked Witch of the West if it should get splashed a little bit. It's not like it doesn't have any water resistance at all; it's just not a dive watch. Cleaning with a bit of water or soap solution should be fine.



3 bars = 30m / 100 feet

Water Resistance is static water pressure, movement reduces depth considerably and most taps (faucets) can deliver more than 3 bar.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
Roffensian wrote:
3 bars = 30m / 100 feet

I did my research this time before posting. It could be my source is wrong, but I consulted an online depth conversion calculator that says 20 meters is equivalent to 3.02361 bars. Is it wrong?
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
Roffensian wrote:
3 bars = 30m / 100 feet

I did my research this time before posting. It could be my source is wrong, but I consulted an online depth conversion calculator that says 20 meters is equivalent to 3.02361 bars. Is it wrong?

Roffensian wrote:
Water Resistance is static water pressure, movement reduces depth considerably and most taps (faucets) can deliver more than 3 bar.

So, he shouldn't hold it under a faucet. I don't think a little water/soap solution is going to hurt, pretty much like what you said above.
Author:  mrcheatle [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
Gotcha! THANKS!
Author:  br549 [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
JacksonStone wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
3 bars = 30m / 100 feet

I did my research this time before posting. It could be my source is wrong, but I consulted an online depth conversion calculator that says 20 meters is equivalent to 3.02361 bars. Is it wrong?

The calculator you used adds 1 atmoshphere of ambient air pressure to the water pressure. :)

From the site:
Note that this calc gives the total pressure (not just the pressure due to the water), so it includes the 1 atm ambient air pressure at sea level.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
br549 wrote:
Note that this calc gives the total pressure (not just the pressure due to the water), so it includes the 1 atm ambient air pressure at sea level.

So, if I understand that correctly, that means it doesn't jibe with standardized water pressure measurements, in other words 1 bar = 10m. But does it actually make it more correct for practical purposes? I suppose we're getting pretty academic here, since we've established the Navi shouldn't be held under running water. I'm more curious than anything else.
Author:  JustinFournier [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
I don't agree with the whole rating system, ATM for example can be misleading.

Either way, simply refer to one of the dozens of charts available (RTFM) and it will even tell you...

ATM=Feet=Metres=Usage
1= 33= 10= Showerproof or splashproof. Protected against accidental exposure to water.
3= 100= 30= Will withstand splashes or brief emersion in water, but is not suitable for swimming.
5= 165= 50= Suitable for swimming.
10= 330= 100= Suitable for swimming and snorkeling.
15= 500= 150= Suitable for snorkeling.
30+= 1000+= 300+= Suitable for skin diving.
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
JustinFournier wrote:
ATM=Feet=Metres=Usage
1= 33= 10= Showerproof or splashproof. Protected against accidental exposure to water.
3= 100= 30= Will withstand splashes or brief emersion in water, but is not suitable for swimming.
5= 165= 50= Suitable for swimming.
10= 330= 100= Suitable for swimming and snorkeling.
15= 500= 150= Suitable for snorkeling.
30+= 1000+= 300+= Suitable for skin diving.

That's useful. Thanks.
Author:  roman4405 [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
JacksonStone wrote:
The Navi World has a WR rating of 3 bars, which is roughly 20 meters, or roughly 65 feet. Everything I've read indicates that one should not expect the watch to be able to withstand such depths for extended periods, but it also means your watch shouldn't act like the Wicked Witch of the West if it should get splashed a little bit. It's not like it doesn't have any water resistance at all; it's just not a dive watch. Cleaning with a bit of water or soap solution should be fine.

:uplaugh: :uplaugh: :uplaugh:
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
JacksonStone wrote:
br549 wrote:
Note that this calc gives the total pressure (not just the pressure due to the water), so it includes the 1 atm ambient air pressure at sea level.

So, if I understand that correctly, that means it doesn't jibe with standardized water pressure measurements, in other words 1 bar = 10m. But does it actually make it more correct for practical purposes? I suppose we're getting pretty academic here, since we've established the Navi shouldn't be held under running water. I'm more curious than anything else.



Not really more accurate as atmospheric pressure is nopt considered in general wear - i.e. as you read this your watch is not considered to be under 1 bar of pressure (although it is - give or take).
Author:  JacksonStone [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Navitimer Cleaning
So, the depth rating is above and beyond standard atmostpheric pressure at sea level? In other words, if a watch is rated at 3 bars, it's already understood the watch is under 1 bar of pressure, so it's 3 bars in addition to the 1 bar pressure it's under at all times? Makes sense, since a watch is never not subject to atmospheric pressure. That being the case, that's even more reason why a splash or two on a Navi isn't cause for alarm.
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