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Hi All!

What is the difference between a Navitimer and an Olympus when certain Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus? I know that some of the Olympus have a nicer “beaded bezel” resembling or echoing the original watches equipped with a slide-rule, yet not all of them.

Is it just marketing or is their more a substantive difference?

Thank you so much for your prompt replies to my inquiry.

Best Regards,

Enezdez

enezdez wrote:

It you're comparing Navitimer Olympus vs Montbrillant Olympus, the differences are the bezel and the caseback. The montribllant olympus has a really nice engraved pic of the breitling factory.
The movt is the same and I think the size too.
I prefer the Navitimer Bezel, but the caseback of the montbrillant is beautiful.

Navi Oly is 43mm and it's out of production, Monty Oly is 42.10mm

Navi 1461/52 and Navi 1461 are semi perpetual, Navi 95 QP, and Navi 1952 QP are perpetual which is a big difference.

I think it's just marketing, Olympus succeeded Navitimer.

Heres a photo of the Navi Olympus and Montbrillant Olympus. They have the same movement, only differences as stated earlier are the caseback and bezel.

That Olympus is NOT the same as a basic Navitimer. The Olympus line has a 4 year perpetual calendar with day, date, month, and moon functions. A Navitimer does NOT have these complications unless you're talking about a Navitimer Olympus...which is the blue watch on the left.

I think you may be confused, the Navitimer Olympus did not replace the Navitimer, they're two totally different watches. ***Also worth noting; the Navitimer Olympus was retired a few years ago and replaced with the Montbrillant Olympus.

Hi mfserge!

But you are mistaken! Some Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus but do not have such designation whatsoever - just review the one's I have mentioned more carefully and you will see what I mean. The 1461/52 I own is not an Olympus nor Navitimer 1461 an Olympus!

Best Regards,

Enezdez

enezdez wrote:

The 1461/52 is a totally different watch than an Olympus. The 1461/52 has a different movement, has a 52 week complication, and doesn't have a moon phase. I think you're comparing two totally different watches. It's like saying a Navitimer is the sale as an Evolution just because they both have a chronograph.

mfserge wrote:

enezdez wrote:

How about Navitimer 1461 with the moon phases?

Both are essentially the same caliber only modified slightly different.

Best Regards,

Enezdez

An Olympus has caliber 19, same as Navitimer 1461!

My question is what makes a Navitimer a Navitimer & an Olympus an Olympus when they share many of the same features - see older posts within the thread for further explanation.

Best Regards,

Enezdez

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:08 am ]
Post subject:	Navitimer Or Olympus That Is The Question?
Hi All! What is the difference between a Navitimer and an Olympus when certain Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus? I know that some of the Olympus have a nicer “beaded bezel” resembling or echoing the original watches equipped with a slide-rule, yet not all of them. Is it just marketing or is their more a substantive difference? Thank you so much for your prompt replies to my inquiry. Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	CountDuckula [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:13 am ]
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enezdez wrote: Hi All! What is the difference between a Navitimer and an Olympus when certain Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus? I know that some of the Olympus have a nicer “beaded bezel” resembling or echoing the original watches equipped with a slide-rule, yet not all of them. Is it just marketing or is their more a substantive difference? Thank you so much for your prompt replies to my inquiry. Best Regards, Enezdez It you're comparing Navitimer Olympus vs Montbrillant Olympus, the differences are the bezel and the caseback. The montribllant olympus has a really nice engraved pic of the breitling factory. The movt is the same and I think the size too. I prefer the Navitimer Bezel, but the caseback of the montbrillant is beautiful.

Author:	bnewbie [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:47 am ]
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Navi Oly is 43mm and it's out of production, Monty Oly is 42.10mm

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:32 am ]
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CountDuckula wrote: enezdez wrote: Hi All! What is the difference between a Navitimer and an Olympus when certain Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus? I know that some of the Olympus have a nicer “beaded bezel” resembling or echoing the original watches equipped with a slide-rule, yet not all of them. Is it just marketing or is their more a substantive difference? Thank you so much for your prompt replies to my inquiry. Best Regards, Enezdez It you're comparing Navitimer Olympus vs Montbrillant Olympus, the differences are the bezel and the caseback. The montribllant olympus has a really nice engraved pic of the breitling factory. The movt is the same and I think the size too. I prefer the Navitimer Bezel, but the caseback of the montbrillant is beautiful. bnewbie wrote: Navi Oly is 43mm and it's out of production, Monty Oly is 42.10mm Yes but then their are examples of just Navitimers like the 1461/52, Navitimer 1461, Navitimer 95 QP, or the Navitimer 1952 QP - see what i mean? Thanks Again For You Prompt Replies! Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	bnewbie [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:36 am ]
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Navi 1461/52 and Navi 1461 are semi perpetual, Navi 95 QP, and Navi 1952 QP are perpetual, which is a big difference.

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Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:44 am ]
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bnewbie wrote: Navi 1461/52 and Navi 1461 are semi perpetual, Navi 95 QP, and Navi 1952 QP are perpetual which is a big difference. True! But why are they not then marketed as an Olympus since I thought the Olympus name stature was the top of the line - in orther words cost more money in general - and naturally QP do cost more so why not market them as Olympus. In other words what makes an Olympus an Olympus & a Navitimer a Navitimer? I am sorry not trying to give you a hard time - Sincerely! Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	bnewbie [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:50 am ]
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I think it's just marketing, Olympus succeeded Navitimer.

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:56 am ]
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bnewbie wrote: I think it's just marketing, Olympus succeeded Navitimer. That is what i think too - I was just hoping there was a better answer tho! LMAO Thanks You So Much Bnewbie For The Dialogue - Have A Great Day/Night! If Anyone Else Has Anything To Add Please Do! Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	mfserge [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:46 am ]
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Heres a photo of the Navi Olympus and Montbrillant Olympus. They have the same movement, only differences as stated earlier are the caseback and bezel. That Olympus is NOT the same as a basic Navitimer. The Olympus line has a 4 year perpetual calendar with day, date, month, and moon functions. A Navitimer does NOT have these complications unless you're talking about a Navitimer Olympus...which is the blue watch on the left. I think you may be confused, the Navitimer Olympus did not replace the Navitimer, they're two totally different watches. ***Also worth noting; the Navitimer Olympus was retired a few years ago and replaced with the Montbrillant Olympus. I've heard rumors that the MB Olympus has recently been retired but it's still on the Breitling website.

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:00 am ]
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mfserge wrote: Heres a photo of the Navi Olympus and Montbrillant Olympus. They have the same movement, only differences as stated earlier are the caseback and bezel. That Olympus is NOT the same as a basic Navitimer. The Olympus line has a 4 year perpetual calendar with day, date, month, and moon functions. A Navitimer does NOT have these complications unless you're talking about a Navitimer Olympus...which is the blue watch on the left. I think you may be confused, the Navitimer Olympus did not replace the Navitimer, they're two totally different watches. ***Also worth noting; the Navitimer Olympus was retired a few years ago and replaced with the Montbrillant Olympus. Hi mfserge! But you are mistaken! Some Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus but do not have such designation whatsoever - just review the one's I have mentioned more carefully and you will see what I mean. The 1461/52 I own is not an Olympus nor Navitimer 1461 an Olympus! Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	mfserge [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:03 am ]
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enezdez wrote: Hi mfserge! But you are mistaken! Some Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus but do not have such designation whatsoever - just review the one's I have mentioned more carefully and you will see what I mean. The 1461/52 I own is not an Olympus nor Navitimer 1461 an Olympus! Best Regards, Enezdez The 1461/52 is a totally different watch than an Olympus. The 1461/52 has a different movement, has a 52 week complication, and doesn't have a moon phase. I think you're comparing two totally different watches. It's like saying a Navitimer is the same as an Evolution just because they both have a chronograph.

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:07 am ]
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mfserge wrote: enezdez wrote: Hi mfserge! But you are mistaken! Some Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus but do not have such designation whatsoever - just review the one's I have mentioned more carefully and you will see what I mean. The 1461/52 I own is not an Olympus nor Navitimer 1461 an Olympus! Best Regards, Enezdez The 1461/52 is a totally different watch than an Olympus. The 1461/52 has a different movement, has a 52 week complication, and doesn't have a moon phase. I think you're comparing two totally different watches. It's like saying a Navitimer is the sale as an Evolution just because they both have a chronograph. How about Navitimer 1461 with the moon phases? Both are essentially the same caliber only modified slightly different. Best Regards, Enezdez

Author:	mfserge [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:10 am ]
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enezdez wrote: mfserge wrote: enezdez wrote: Hi mfserge! But you are mistaken! Some Navitimers have the same features as an Olympus but do not have such designation whatsoever - just review the one's I have mentioned more carefully and you will see what I mean. The 1461/52 I own is not an Olympus nor Navitimer 1461 an Olympus! Best Regards, Enezdez The 1461/52 is a totally different watch than an Olympus. The 1461/52 has a different movement, has a 52 week complication, and doesn't have a moon phase. I think you're comparing two totally different watches. It's like saying a Navitimer is the sale as an Evolution just because they both have a chronograph. How about Navitimer 1461 with the moon phases? Both are essentially the same caliber only modified slightly different. Best Regards, Enezdez Different movement than an Olympus...even if it's only slightly different it's still different. I'm not really sure I understand your question or what you're trying to figure out with this thread?

Author:	enezdez [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:20 am ]
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An Olympus has caliber 19, same as Navitimer 1461! My question is what makes a Navitimer a Navitimer & an Olympus an Olympus when they share many of the same features - see older posts within the thread for further explanation. Best Regards, Enezdez

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Author:	mfserge [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:29 am ]
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enezdez wrote: An Olympus has caliber 19, same as Navitimer 1461! My question is what makes a Navitimer a Navitimer & an Olympus an Olympus when they share many of the same features - see older posts within the thread for further explanation. Best Regards, Enezdez The Olympus and Montbrillant 1461 have the same movement and are basically the same exact watch. When I hear NAVITIMER, I do not think of all these models with extra complications, I think of the Original Classic Navitimer with a chrono only.