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Author:  a!!!!1 [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Adjusting time, watch stopped
I didn't wear my Super Avenger for about a week and I didn't wind it up either, so I looked at it this morning and noticed it had stopped. It's never done this before. So I wound it up and it started again. It stopped at 12:40, but since you're not supposed to adjust the time from 8pm-3am and I don't know whether it stopped at 12:40am or 12:40pm, do I need to wait until it gets to 3:00 to adjust it to the actual time?

Thinking about this confused me a little because when you're adjusting the date, you set it to the day before and then take the time past midnight to get to the time, so you know whether you're in am or pm. But doesn't that mean you're adjusting it at midnight, which is between 8pm-3am, and isn't that what you're not supposed to do?
Author:  myxomatosis [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
I'm sure someone else will give you a more precise answer, but if you aren't sure if its am or pm I would just wait either way until after 3 and then set the time/date.
Author:  RJRJRJ [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
People tend to leave out a word when quoting the 8pm-3am rule. The correct rule is "Do not adjust the time backward between the hours of 8pm-3am". Adjusting the time forward is perfectly fine at any time. Advancing the time only serves as a method to "fast-forward" the day according to your watch, and has no negative impact. Do not touch the date; just advance the time until you are outside of the 8-3 window, and then you can do whatever you want.
Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:16 am ]
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RJRJRJ wrote:
People tend to leave out a word when quoting the 8pm-3am rule. The correct rule is "Do not adjust the time backward between the hours of 8pm-3am". Adjusting the time forward is perfectly fine at any time. Advancing the time only serves as a method to "fast-forward" the day according to your watch, and has no negative impact. Do not touch the date; just advance the time until you are outside of the 8-3 window, and then you can do whatever you want.


:yeahthat

The watch stopped because it only has a 42 hour power reserve, wind it forward until the indicated time is afrter 3, set it for the day before and then wind time forward again until you are accurate. 40 turns of the crown for a full wind and you are good to go.
Author:  a!!!!1 [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
Thanks for the tips, I got it set right :D
Author:  F14D_Tomcat [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
Roffensian wrote:
The watch stopped because it only has a 42 hour power reserve, wind it forward until the indicated time is afrter 3, set it for the day before and then wind time forward again until you are accurate. 40 turns of the crown for a full wind and you are good to go.


When I pick up my B01 after a coupla days of "rest", I just give it some turns of the crown to help it keep it going.

My question Roff: is this boost necessary? Also, only 5 or 6 turns of the crown are possible, after that I meet some resistance and it seems that the crown is at full wind. I am way off the 40 turns you mention :huh , or, possibly the 70 turns to have a full 72-hour wind.
Author:  Roffensian [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
F14D_Tomcat wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
The watch stopped because it only has a 42 hour power reserve, wind it forward until the indicated time is afrter 3, set it for the day before and then wind time forward again until you are accurate. 40 turns of the crown for a full wind and you are good to go.


When I pick up my B01 after a coupla days of "rest", I just give it some turns of the crown to help it keep it going.

My question Roff: is this boost necessary? Also, only 5 or 6 turns of the crown are possible, after that I meet some resistance and it seems that the crown is at full wind. I am way off the 40 turns you mention :huh , or, possibly the 70 turns to have a full 72-hour wind.


It's 40 turns, not 70 - it's just gearing.

Whether you need to wind it or whether your arm actions are enough to wind will depend on how active you are. If the watch has been inactive for two days 5 or 6 turns will not result in a full wind.
Author:  TakmaN [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
I haven't tried on my Breitling yet but can you hear the gears slip when the watch is fully wound to prevent overwinding? You can hear it/feel it a bit on my Omega PO when it was fully wound.
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:42 pm ]
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TakmaN wrote:
I haven't tried on my Breitling yet but can you hear the gears slip when the watch is fully wound to prevent overwinding? You can hear it/feel it a bit on my Omega PO when it was fully wound.


Some people claim to hear it slipping, I never have - you can feel it when you get used to it.
Author:  a!!!!1 [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
When I bought it the lady at Tourneau said it was impossible to wind it too much. I've sat there and turned it a hundred times before while watching TV and never met any resistance or anything that felt wrong.

By a "turn" does it mean a full turn all the way around (so the B ends up in the same position it was in to start), or just however far it turns when you turn it naturally (about half of a full turn)?

So assuming it's wound up all the way and I've been wearing it for a few days, if I take it off and don't wear it, it should be good for 42 hours and I won't have to adjust it or wind it up again as long as I wear it again before the 42 hours is up?
Author:  RJRJRJ [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
a!!!!1 wrote:
When I bought it the lady at Tourneau said it was impossible to wind it too much. I've sat there and turned it a hundred times before while watching TV and never met any resistance or anything that felt wrong.

By a "turn" does it mean a full turn all the way around (so the B ends up in the same position it was in to start), or just however far it turns when you turn it naturally (about half of a full turn)?

So assuming it's wound up all the way and I've been wearing it for a few days, if I take it off and don't wear it, it should be good for 42 hours and I won't have to adjust it or wind it up again as long as I wear it again before the 42 hours is up?


The lady was correct. You cannot overwind an automatic. After its fully wound, its possibly to hear a very faint clicking noise. It can easily be confused or covered up by the normal winding sound, so if you dont hear it, dont worry.

A full turn is a full rotation, i.e. upright B to upright B.

The power reserve depends on how long you wear it. If you wind it fully, but only wear it a few hours over the course of a couple of days, the reserve will wear down. For instance, if you wind it fully, and immediately wear it, it should be fully charged when you take it off later on. However, after it has sat overnight, the reserve will obviously be diminished, and if you dont wear it enought the next day you may not be able to fully recover the power that was lost.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
RJRJRJ wrote:
A full turn is a full rotation, i.e. upright B to upright B.



Actually, an experience from a member here suggests that may not be enough. That was always my assumption, although I always do 40 winding motions. My assumption was that a winding motion would be approximately the same as a rotation, but (at least for me) it's actually about 1 1/2. A member here who did 40 crown rotations didn't get the full reserve.
Author:  bacardi [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:32 am ]
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is it true that you should do 40 winds per month when wearing it?

or in other words, once a month, wind it up 40 times
Author:  onewatchnut [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
TakmaN wrote:
I haven't tried on my Breitling yet but can you hear the gears slip when the watch is fully wound to prevent overwinding? You can hear it/feel it a bit on my Omega PO when it was fully wound.

Automatic watches have a mainspring with a bridle. It is a short spring coiled in the opposite direction and attached to the end of the spring. It functions as a floating attachemnt point. The bridle allows the mainspring to be fully wound and also prevents it from unwinding inside the barrel, thus transmitting almost all the energy to the second wheel. The slipping noise you hear is normal. It is the mainspring bridle slipping against the wall of the barrel. It will be more or less pronounced based on the type and freshness of the mainspring lube.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Adjusting time, watch stopped
bacardi wrote:
is it true that you should do 40 winds per month when wearing it?

or in other words, once a month, wind it up 40 times


Not necessary, with daily wear it should stay wound.
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