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Jomashop and lack of COSC Certificate
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Author:  Driver8 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:07 am ]
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A mate of mine just received a new Chronomat Evo that he bought from Jomashop and reckoned they delivered it in very quick time.

HOWEVER, while he was expecting there to be no official Breitling warranty card, he also reckons it's missing the COSC Certificate which he WAS expecting to be included. Apparently they aren't returning his emails or calls.

Any ideas why a company would keep the COSC Certificate?? :huh
Author:  Flynbyu [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:07 pm ]
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The COSC certificate should be with it, minus the warranty card.

The COSC certificate isn't a big deal, and shouldn't be a secret. Jomashop should have sent it. I hope your mate can get in touch with them about the matter!

~Brian
Author:  breitlingsource [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:53 am ]
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That's strange.. the COSC should indeed be with it.. After a reasonable amount of time I'd return it and file a chargeback.
Author:  Driver8 [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:07 am ]
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Yeah I couldn't see why there would be an issue with providing the certificate as there is nothing incriminating on it to identify the source of the watch. Very odd.

Still, my mate loves the watch (and the price) so I don't reckon he'll want to return it. (I would if it was mine though!!!)
Author:  breitlingsource [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:43 pm ]
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Yeah.. that's true I guess.. to be honest, I've been in similar situations in the past purchasing watches.. and I love the watch so much that it is a hassle to return it and Its just not worth it because I am happier with the watch than without it and having to find another one.

Hoep you m8 enjoys it driver8 :D im a poet and i dun know it.
Author:  Alien [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:43 am ]
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If they have removed the serial number of the watch, they will not give You a COSC certificate, as the serial number is printed on that.

But just for fun: Try to sell a Breitling without serial number and certificate on ebay. You will probably not get more than $ 50 for it.

BG
Thomas
Author:  Driver8 [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:25 am ]
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No I've seen the watch and the serial number is still intact, so there's no reason for them not to include the certificate. I'm sure it's 100% genuine and Jomashop seem to get generally great reviews (and their authenticity doesn't seem in doubt), but if it was mine I'd be posting it to Breitling for a bit of authentication pronto!
Author:  roadcarver [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:47 am ]
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I bought from a TZer a CA last time (originally bought from Jomashop) and that too didn't come with the COSC and warranty booklet.

Its strange... however Prestigetime only withholds the warranty booklet - which I believe is better IMHO.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:00 am ]
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That is weird - JomaShop make a big deal of always leaving the serial intact so no reason why there shouldn't be a certificate - more concerning that they are ignoring his calls / e-mails.
Author:  Driver8 [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:33 am ]
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I've just had a text from my mate - apparently Jomashop have got back to him and they said "Since we are not authorzed dealers we cannot supply all the paperwork that comes withe the watch".

Seems like they assume that the COSC certificate is incriminating in some way.......

Anyway I've recommended to my mate that he sends his watch off to Breitling for them to authenticate it and provide a copy of the certificate if he's that bothered about it. It cost £30, so I reckon it's probably worth it.

Worth noting that they don't provide the certificate though if you are shopping for a Breitling on-line.
Author:  Double_J [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:31 am ]
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Weird. I wonder if this is a matter of policy or just bad luck with one watch. It's possible that Jomashop is getting watches without the certificates (does not place doubt on their authenticity) and cannot have Breitling issue since they're not ADs.

I bought my Evo new from an AD and didn't get the COSC certificate with it. The sales person (generally very knowledgeable) didn't even know that it was supposed to be part of the normal document package. She was able to have one issued for me after I asked about it but it didn't seem that they normally received watches with the certificate. Note that I did call Breitling myself first and they would not issue the paperwork unless requested by an AD.
Author:  aleister [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:22 am ]
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That sounds strange. The only time my AD gets a watch without the paperwork is when he requires a watch for viewing. Then the main Breitling distributor sits on the certificates, just to make sure if the watch should be stolen. I have a few times ordered a watch for viewing and then ended up buying it. Then I've had to wait a little while for the paperwork to arrive. In any other case the full paperwork should be with the watch from the beginning.

AD's that doesn't know what a COSC is and that it should follow the watch is frightening.
Author:  audionutter [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:38 pm ]
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Whilst we're on the subject of certificates, what should be included in the paperwork when purchasing from an AD?

Is it the warranty booklet, the COSC certificate and the instruction manual booklet? Anything else?
Author:  aleister [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:29 pm ]
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That's about it. And all papers should have matching numbers, of course. For some models (read Navitimers and Bentleys) a slide rule guide is also in the papers.
Author:  gips30 [ Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:10 am ]
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I purchased a chronomat evo through authenticwatches and it came with cosc. The first watch I purchased came with serials that were removed and that watch did not come with cosc, gave them a call and let them know that I was looking for a watch with serials, they did the exchange and was a smooth transaction.
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