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| Author: | jmwaldhelm [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Hello all, I have the above watch, does anyone know exactly what they mean by a "rolled gold" dial? Is it a solid gold layer applied to some other material, such as silver, is it solid gold rolled out, etc? I know it was only available during about half of the Headwind run, but I can't seem to find much information on it. Any comments or information would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jack Waldhelm 
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Rolled gold (such as used on the bracelet links of TT Breitlings) is a thin layer of gold that is laminated to a substrait of some kind, which in the case of a Breitling dial is probably brass. The layer of gold is thin, but significantly thicker than a PVD'd or plated layer. Rolled gold is often thick enough to be engraved without the base metal showing through. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
As Driver8 says! Generally Breitling rolled gold is 20 microns, but not sure if that is true of the Headwind dials - I suspect that it may be thinner (but no evidence). |
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| Author: | enezdez [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Roffensian wrote: As Driver8 says! Generally Breitling rolled gold is 20 microns, but not sure if that is true of the Headwind dials - I suspect that it may be thinner (but no evidence). Hi Roff! So does that mean that a TT link on a Breitling Bracelet is 1/5 gold (the outer layer - while the core is stainless stee) ? Best Regards, Enezdez |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
enezdez wrote: Roffensian wrote: As Driver8 says! Generally Breitling rolled gold is 20 microns, but not sure if that is true of the Headwind dials - I suspect that it may be thinner (but no evidence). Hi Roff! So does that mean that a TT link on a Breitling Bracelet is 1/5 gold (the outer layer - while the core is stainless stee) ? Best Regards, Enezdez Oh no, not again! No offence Enezdez, but there have been way too many discussions on this with emotions running very high. A TT bracelet link is laminated 20 microns thick - take a look at the side of a link and you will see. If you want a migraine, please feel free to use the search function. 
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Roffensian wrote: enezdez wrote: Roffensian wrote: As Driver8 says! Generally Breitling rolled gold is 20 microns, but not sure if that is true of the Headwind dials - I suspect that it may be thinner (but no evidence). Hi Roff! So does that mean that a TT link on a Breitling Bracelet is 1/5 gold (the outer layer - while the core is stainless stee) ? Best Regards, Enezdez Oh no, not again! No offence Enezdez, but there have been way too many discussions on this with emotions running very high. A TT bracelet link is laminated 20 microns thick - take a look at the side of a link and you will see. If you want a migraine, please feel free to use the search function.  Sorry, I should never have mentioned "TT bracelet links" in my first response to this thread!
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| Author: | enezdez [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Roffensian wrote: enezdez wrote: Roffensian wrote: As Driver8 says! Generally Breitling rolled gold is 20 microns, but not sure if that is true of the Headwind dials - I suspect that it may be thinner (but no evidence). Hi Roff! So does that mean that a TT link on a Breitling Bracelet is 1/5 gold (the outer layer - while the core is stainless stee) ? Best Regards, Enezdez Oh no, not again! No offence Enezdez, but there have been way too many discussions on this with emotions running very high. A TT bracelet link is laminated 20 microns thick - take a look at the side of a link and you will see. If you want a migraine, please feel free to use the search function. Hi Roff! I just asked a simple question – I was unaware that the topic was taboo. In addition I was not attempting to resurface any polemic issues. I genuinely wanted to know and still do – I guess I will simply call BUSA. However, I was under the impression that this is a Breitling Watch Forum and therefore a medium to exchange ideas, ask questions, and share knowledge. Furthermore, I believed that was the mission and/or purpose of Breitling Source as illustrated on the home page. As a result of this current dialogue/exchange I have come to the conclusion that only so-called politically correct questions maybe posted and/or will be answered accordingly. In addition Roff if you were concerned about the tumultuous waters that such an open discussion may have lead you could of PM me with the answer or explain the situation in a more esteemed manner in a PM. As a result I was offended! Best Regards, Enezdez |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Enezdez, I didn't mean to offend - I honestly didn't. I did answer your question - it's a 20 micron laminated sheet of gold. You can see the thickness if you look at the side of a TT link. This is one topic that went way too far a couple of months ago and many of the members who were here at the time will recall it. You weren't one of them, and you didn't know that it had been an emotive topic. My apologies for causing offence, I hope that you know that I am not selective in which questions I try to answer. |
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| Author: | GZGym1 [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Roff def didnt mean to be offensive you just had to be around when the past thread about TT bracelets were discussed to understand completely thats all! Seriously, if you do a search function you will understand a little better lol. Its really nothing to be offended by |
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| Author: | enezdez [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Hi Roff! Thank You Very Much for your prompt response apology accepted your a gentleman. Perhaps I still do not understand - is there a stainless steel core or in every gold link? What is the material of the core of these links? Or is the whole thing laminated sheet gold? Now it's my turn to apologies for beating this into the ground! Best Regards, Enezdez |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
enezdez wrote: Hi Roff! Thank You Very Much for your prompt response apology accepted your a gentleman. Perhaps I still do not understand - is there a stainless steel core or in every gold link? What is the material of the core of these links? Or is the whole thing laminated sheet gold? Now it's my turn to apologies for beating this into the ground! Best Regards, Enezdez Rolled gold is a sheet of gold applied to a base metal. Historically it was brass - in fact it's called brassing when it wears off, but Breitling uses steel. They produce a steel link - just the same as a SS bracelet, only smaller. There is then a thin sheet of gold fused to that steel core - wrapped around the link, but not on the sides. The completed piece is then the same size as a 'regular' link. Make sense? |
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| Author: | enezdez [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Hi Roff! YES! Thank You! Best Regards, Enezdez |
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| Author: | GZGym1 [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Headwind - Rolled Gold Dial |
Much easier this time!!! haha good u guys got it all on the up and up |
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