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| Author: | rebel_1 [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Manual Winding an automatic watch |
Currently own a Fortis B-52 with 7750 movement, a Steelfish and Seawolf with B-17 movement. I do not use a watch winder. I have been manually winding the watches every couple of days (the Fortis daily because of a lack of use). Tonight I was winding my Fortis and something happened. The half disc (it has a display back, not sure of the proper name) suddenly caught and started winding with each wind. Also, the part mentioned does not move with watch movements. The question remains. Does it damage the movement to manually wind the watch? If so, I guess I need to get a winder. I personnal think the Fortis is not the same quality of the Breitlings, so perhaps that is why I have had problems, even though the base movement is used by Breitling. R/ |
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
Not sure why the rotor (that's what the "half disk" is called) would've "caught" so that it twists with each manual wind. That sould like a problem to me, so you will need a trip to an AD. BUT there is no problem at all with manually winding an automatic watch. they are designed to allow the option of manual winding. Seiko (amongst) others produce a very cheap automatuc movement that doesn't allow manual winding (the crown just free-wheels if you try to) so if manual winding was bad for an auto the manufacturer could quite easily prevent the operation. |
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| Author: | onewatchnut [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
The rotor should move independently based on the position of the watch. It is essentially gravity driven. The fact that it is tracking the movement of the keyless works (winding/setting part of the watch) indicates that something is not free to move in the rotor assembly.  It's time to take it to a watchmaker 
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| Author: | mjb [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
Driver8 wrote: if manual winding was bad for an auto the manufacturer could quite easily prevent the operation. I'm no expert, but this answer makes a lot of sense to me. Michael |
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| Author: | MartC [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
rebel_1 wrote: Also, the part mentioned does not move with watch movements. I find this odd as well, the fact the rotor doesn't normally move with watch movement 
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| Author: | rebel_1 [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
Just got my Fortis back from the watch maker. Basically cost about the same as a chrono service at Breitling without making it look new. I was told that the lub had broken down and he took the movement completely apart, cleaned it, reassembled and regulated it. Funny thing is that the watch is just about 2 years old. I probably should have sent it back to Fortis. Oh well, I'm not a huge fan of this watch since I got the Breitling bug and would probably sell it if it were not a special edition. Either way, it is working now. For how long will be question. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
rebel_1 wrote: Just got my Fortis back from the watch maker. Basically cost about the same as a chrono service at Breitling without making it look new. I was told that the lub had broken down and he took the movement completely apart, cleaned it, reassembled and regulated it. Funny thing is that the watch is just about 2 years old. I probably should have sent it back to Fortis. Oh well, I'm not a huge fan of this watch since I got the Breitling bug and would probably sell it if it were not a special edition. Either way, it is working now. For how long will be question. Are you saying that he charged you about $500 to strip, clean, oil, reassemble and time it???  Sorry, but that guy ripped you off if that's the case. |
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| Author: | rebel_1 [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
Yep. What do you do, except not go back. It did get under my skin especially since I don't wear it much. Oh well, live and learn. What I learned most is to never buy a Fortis. R/ |
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| Author: | aleister [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Manual Winding an automatic watch |
I wouldn't say that, but more like "always ask for the cost before you commit to any work - you can always ask someone else for a second opinion". |
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