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Author:  dgleeds [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:20 am ]
Post subject:  Screw in Crown question

I have an Avenger Seawolf TI and I was wondering if I have to completely tighten the crown until it meats the case metal or if I can leave it loose and line the "B" straight up and down. This should be OK since the seals for water resistance are the same even if it was left unscrewed right?

Tight is "B" upside down, so I need to loosen by one half turn to line the "B" up.

Author:  bnewbie [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Screw in Crown question

Tighten it all the way.
It should be tightened to be water resistant.

Author:  Breitling-nutt [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:54 am ]
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Crown should be tightened.

Author:  Jerome [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:12 am ]
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bnewbie wrote:
Tighten it all the way.
It should be tightened to be water resistant.


I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.

Author:  dgleeds [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Screw in Crown question

Jerome wrote:
bnewbie wrote:
Tighten it all the way.
It should be tightened to be water resistant.


I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.



That's what I thought I read somewhere too, that's why I asked.


DL

Author:  bnewbie [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Screw in Crown question

Jerome wrote:
bnewbie wrote:
Tighten it all the way.
It should be tightened to be water resistant.


I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.

It might be WR if not completely screwed, but I wouldn't gamble with that.

Author:  The Toecutter [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:58 am ]
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Don't tighten the crwon too tight. You'll strip out the crown and that is very bad news on a TI Seawolf..

Author:  Driver8 [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:46 am ]
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Jerome wrote:
I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.

That's more to do with screw-down push-pieces. They are water resistant even when unscrewed : the screwdown element is to prevent accidental operation underwater as they are not functional at depth.

The crown should always be screwed in fully for maximum water resistance, although as Toecutter says, don't go stupid when tightening it up as you can strip threads. Finger-tight is fine as that will compress the gaskets enough to provide the WR.

Author:  Jerome [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:31 am ]
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Driver8 wrote:
Jerome wrote:
I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.

That's more to do with screw-down push-pieces. They are water resistant even when unscrewed : the screwdown element is to prevent accidental operation underwater as they are not functional at depth.


Driver8,
Is the screw-down push-piece you mention the same as a "Push-Pull Crown (Pull to set time/date then push in to the close position where you can still manual wind the watch)"? The reason I ask is while reading up on Fortis watch (prior to my purchase) I read that due to screw down threading problems on their B42 line they changed to a "Push Pull" crown. This includes those that came in for service in or out of warranty and it apparently allowed them to maintain their 200M WR. Interesting enough I used to collect WatchTime Magazines and found a article in the October 2007 edition that outlined the results of a Comparative Test between 9 divers watches and they stated the following in regards to Fortis non screw down crown. "This watch's crown is the only one in the comparison that isn't screwed. Nevertheless, in our test, the case remained impermeable in saltwater and under strong air or water pressure. The watch is designed to resist 25 ATM of water pressure for one hour - and it lived up to these specifications".

Needless to say I wish they had developed a better solution to the threading problem instead of replacing them with the "push-pull" crown. Primarily due to the fact that I like the idea of screwing down the crown it gives a sense of security knowing that everything is tightly secured in place.

I also believe some of the Zeno watches use the same push-pull crown and they are rated for 300M.

Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:33 am ]
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A screwdown crown is one that screws in from the first position - i.e. fully pushed in.

The windrider crown thread is comparable in length to the aeromarine in my experience.

Author:  Driver8 [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Screw in Crown question

Jerome wrote:
Driver8 wrote:
Jerome wrote:
I was of the understanding that the crown didnt have to be tighten for water resistance but more to make sure that everything is locked into place to aid against shock typical in every day wear.

That's more to do with screw-down push-pieces. They are water resistant even when unscrewed : the screwdown element is to prevent accidental operation underwater as they are not functional at depth.


Driver8,
Is the screw-down push-piece you mention the same as a "Push-Pull Crown (Pull to set time/date then push in to the close position where you can still manual wind the watch)"?

No I was talking about the the screw-in chronograph push-pieces - i.e. the stop/start and rest buttons.

Author:  Jerome [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:47 am ]
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Driver8,

:yeahthat Okay and thanks for the clarification...

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