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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:05 am 
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And if you were him,would you bother coming back to explain in more detail?




And I was one of the "piler oners". My sincere apologies to the OP.



I just now read page one and it looked to me like a bunch of fellas having fun with each other rather than ganging up on the OP. But to be proactive, I apologize in advance if this or my other comment here caused consternation to anyone anywhere, alive or deceased. Amen :roll:

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Sorry didn't mean no harm... I apologize to the OP as well... Hope you get your issue resolved as well...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:59 am 
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I'm not sure why you guys are sorry now. Honestly, the OP's first post (which also was literally his first post on this forum) was full of attitude and completely devoid of helpful or pertinent information. What were we supposed to do with it? Once the OP told us the problem in concrete terms, we offered the best information we could to help him, and aside from some constructive criticism, all joking and gibing stopped.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:39 pm 
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I have to add two points concerning service:

1. You cannot ship a car per mail to the general agent, so all car dealers have to do all the warranty work in their own workshop (unless two dealers can share one, because of close distances, although that rarely happens). An average cardealer has one Brand with 10 active models and 30 older models sometimes coming back. There are many technical similarities on those models. An average watchdealer has about 10 brands with up to 50 different models (movementvariants). You cannot hold a sparepartshop for 500 different watches. So You have to work with general agencies.

2. When You have serviced a car, You start the engine, listen how it runs, maybe go for a testdrive, adjust some tuning, and it is done. When You have serviced a watch, You have to check it for at least 5 days to be sure, the winding system is really ok and everything is working. I know of an extreme case (about 20 years ago), where the watch stopped every other month on the datechange (was a ML with moonphase and daydate/month). On the fifth time in at the agent, they found out that one of the weels in charge of the 31st was slightly dent, so that the power of the watch could not move it further, but when You moved it manually, it was no problem. The biggest handicap was, that it always came in shourtly after a 31 days month, ready for the next 30 day change, and so it allways passed the test at the agent...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:42 pm 
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I sent my Chronomat 01 back to BUSA four times for the same repair.


Though that itself is a bit concerning, no? :?

It's extremely concerning and you'll find many posts on here where I was absolutely livid about it. Others have also experienced issues with the B01 movement. However, it doesn't mean that all Breitlings have poor quality. It means that Breitling doesn't have all the kinks worked out of their B01 manufacturing process yet.

My Chronomat was one of the first to roll off the production line back in July 2009. My Navi 01 that was purchased in December 2010 has not exhibited any noteworthy issues. I definitely won't be purchasing anymore B01 powered pieces, but I don't think the ones I have are junk.

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However, it doesn't mean that all Breitlings have poor quality. It means that Breitling doesn't have all the kinks worked out of their B01 manufacturing process yet.

It's also worth noting that the Galactic is ETA based. Obviously that didn't prevent the OP's watch from having a problem, but generally ETAs are workhorse movements.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:23 am 
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Very good point, JacksonStone. Issues such as this in ETA movements are very uncommon, but I half expected something to go wrong with Breitling's first attempt at an in-house movement. I was irritated, but not surprised.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:09 am 
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Sorry didn't mean no harm... I apologize to the OP as well... Hope you get your issue resolved as well...


If we all apologized when we offended someone on the forums I think all you would see is a list of "I'm sorry". :argue:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:55 am 
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I sent my Chronomat 01 back to BUSA four times for the same repair.


Though that itself is a bit concerning, no? :?

It's extremely concerning and you'll find many posts on here where I was absolutely livid about it. Others have also experienced issues with the B01 movement. However, it doesn't mean that all Breitlings have poor quality. It means that Breitling doesn't have all the kinks worked out of their B01 manufacturing process yet.

My Chronomat was one of the first to roll off the production line back in July 2009. My Navi 01 that was purchased in December 2010 has not exhibited any noteworthy issues. I definitely won't be purchasing anymore B01 powered pieces, but I don't think the ones I have are junk.



When all new products emerge, despite pretests, etc., the released items end up as prototypes. They are works in progress, & the initial
buyers' watches (in this instance) are lab rats. This happened when the Omega Co-Axials began serial production, & soon enough many were
in service centers for various glitches related to that caliber's eccentricities. They're better today, but something will sporadically occur which
is the cost of doing business with fallibility. I suggest making arrangements with ADs to offer exchanges up to one year on all mech/selfwinding
Breitling calibers that malfunction, & @ the very least, furnish suitable loaners while these poor watches & their (rightfully) frustrated owners expe-
rience separation anxiety during the long & painful repair procedures.


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I have hit the wall and given up on Breitling Watches. I was just notified that it will be at least 10 more days before they know why my brand new watch can not maintain accurate time. This might be ok with the dedicated lovers of Breitling but I find it unacceptable to my expectations, I also found some of the comments on this blog to be very childish. :nana: Keep drinking the cool-aid, I am moving on to Rolex. :evil:


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I have hit the wall and given up on Breitling Watches. I was just notified that it will be at least 10 more days before they know why my brand new watch can not maintain accurate time. This might be ok with the dedicated lovers of Breitling but I find it unacceptable to my expectations, I also found some of the comments on this blog to be very childish. :nana: Keep drinking the cool-aid, I am moving on to Rolex. :evil:

I think a Rolex will suit you better anyway. You definitely seem like one of "those" guys. More Kool-Aid for me.

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Josephwr wrote:
I have hit the wall and given up on Breitling Watches. I was just notified that it will be at least 10 more days before they know why my brand new watch can not maintain accurate time. This might be ok with the dedicated lovers of Breitling but I find it unacceptable to my expectations, I also found some of the comments on this blog to be very childish. :nana: Keep drinking the cool-aid, I am moving on to Rolex. :evil:

Based on your utter lack of recognition of your own contribution to the tenor of this thread, as well as your lack of graciousness in thanking those of us who actually did take the time to address your problem constructively, I'm not the least bit bothered if you choose not to frequent this forum any more. I don't think it will be any loss for us at all.

That said, good luck with your watch, whatever you choose to do with it.


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Josephwr wrote:
I have hit the wall and given up on Breitling Watches. I was just notified that it will be at least 10 more days before they know why my brand new watch can not maintain accurate time. This might be ok with the dedicated lovers of Breitling but I find it unacceptable to my expectations, I also found some of the comments on this blog to be very childish. :nana: Keep drinking the cool-aid, I am moving on to Rolex. :evil:



I just reviewed the entire thread one more time and I saw some horseplay as well as folks bending over backwards to offer advice. But the quoted post here is the first truly childish one.

I didn't see one time where you ackowledged anyone taking time to offer help. Now who does that...take, take, take, demand, demand, demand, and offer nothing in return?? Hmmm...it sounds familiar. OHHHHH YEAH, that would be children.

Glad you enjoyed you time here. Hope you find what you are looking for.

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I think a Rolex will suit you better anyway. You definitely seem like one of "those" guys. More Kool-Aid for me.

Hey now...don't go dissing on Rolex fans. We're not all "those" guys. :wink:


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But the quoted post here is the first truly childish one. Glad you enjoyed you time here. Hope you find what you are looking for.

After re-reading his comment, it also strikes me as potentially racist.


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