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Someone mentioned a non chrono version so I mocked one up for you.

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Current finances preclude me from even considering joining the group purchase but I have to say I prefer the chrono version.

If anyone is interested in seeing any more colourways, or even different models, leave a note on here and I'll try and mock something up when I have time.


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Love it Sharkmouth. I imagine a slightly darker red would be nicer?

in ceramic bezel.... :twisted:

Love the direction of this thread.


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100% for the chrono version.

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I'm also for the SOHC over the SOH. It's a great mock-up, but in my mind it's too similiar to the "real" SOH - just the bezel is different.

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So hypothetically.....

What would people find acceptable as a list price for a SOHC black with red subs, red bezel, xx/xx engraved on a DB? What about without a DB?

I believe (but stand to be corrected) that a regular SOHC is around $4,500 list.

Strap / bracelet isn't really an issue as we can always get theose swapped out for whatever individuals want.

Couple of other points:

Solution to the contract issue will be to get 100% up front, but I'm guessing there will still need to be some legal safeguards to reassure others that I am prevented from running off with the money.

I missed one question last night - my understanding is that if this watch is a true LE as we are proposing then the colour combo will never be reused. Breitling may decide to use the red again, but not like this.

I don't mean to imply that the red / black SOHC is where we end up, just trying to get a sense of perspective.

Feel free to communicate privately if you prefer.


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I'm truly sorry to step backwards from the project (not from my previous words): for me it seems that the SOHC is the winner with the 46 mm standard size. As stated a while ago I'm in every project with stainless steel watch cases between 38 and 42 mm with 0/60 count-up bezel, Valjoux 7750 day-date and dark dial (all blue, blue/black, maybe all black). Basis could be the SOHC with normal size, CSO, Chrono Cockpit or an Aviastar reissue. Unfortunately the presently planned LE is out of these criteria in more than one point. :(
I strongly hope that this LE will be a success on both sides and a yearly small series can follow, every year another watch type, sooner or later one of my wishes can be fulfilled. Till that time I'll wait patiently and enjoy my three Lings: CSO blue dial, Chrono Cockpit blue dial and Aviastar black dial. I also hope that the vast majority of this forum will have and enjoy the majority decision's fruit.

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PS: Two other thoughts, maybe also for decision at Breitling/Grenchen:

1. The clasp of the Ocean Racer is very first class, super! I'd be happy to see a very similar clasp (double pusher safety and quick adjustment possibility) on the whole series of steel bracelets: Navitimer, Pilot, ProII., Ocean Classic and Speed - maybe with a chance to upgrade from today's clasp as well. A. o. TAG-Heuer and Omega uses similar double pusher clasps. I'd be also happy to see a new design of safety clasp for leather straps too, sg. like Omega has: double pusher, thin design and no extra trauma for the strap.

2. There are a series of anniversaries to be remembered on in the near future: 2009: 125 years Breitling, 25 years new Chronomat and Rider Tabs. January 2010: 150. birthday of Mr. Leon Breitling. A lot of reasons for special/limited editions...

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Good call! How about adding that to the dial to give a reason for the LE?

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This all sounds good to me. Roff, Im very happy with you continuing this discussion and I personally will be happy with the group consensus. I think a reasonable deposit will sort out the really interested people, but payment options (paypal, credit card, wire transfer etc) are definitely worth thinking about especially for those of us not living in US/Canada, and if more options are available then more people may be interested in purchasing.

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There are a series of anniversaries to be remembered on in the near future: 2009: 125 years Breitling


Good call! How about adding that to the dial to give a reason for the LE?



I have a feeling we may be seeing some SEs / LEs for this anniversary - goes back to my thoughts in another thread earlierthis week about why we might not have seen too much change this year.


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There are a series of anniversaries to be remembered on in the near future: 2009: 125 years Breitling


Good call! How about adding that to the dial to give a reason for the LE?



I have a feeling we may be seeing some SEs / LEs for this anniversary - goes back to my thoughts in another thread earlierthis week about why we might not have seen too much change this year.


I know this is slightly off-topic so apologies but, if there were going to be some LEs for 2009, would these appear in the 2009 Chronolog (the one out in Nov/Dec) or do Breitling only unveil new models, LEs etc. at Baselworld?

I would have assumed the latter but I'm new to all of this.

Thanks!


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There are a series of anniversaries to be remembered on in the near future: 2009: 125 years Breitling


Good call! How about adding that to the dial to give a reason for the LE?



I have a feeling we may be seeing some SEs / LEs for this anniversary - goes back to my thoughts in another thread earlierthis week about why we might not have seen too much change this year.


I know this is slightly off-topic so apologies but, if there were going to be some LEs for 2009, would these appear in the 2009 Chronolog (the one out in Nov/Dec) or do Breitling only unveil new models, LEs etc. at Baselworld?

I would have assumed the latter but I'm new to all of this.

Thanks!


The Chronolog that comes out at the end of this year will feature the models announced at this year's Basel. The models will be announced at basel and then be included in a mini catalogue called Runway that will start appearing a couple of months after Basel.


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Thanks - that's great.

Don't know if I can wait that long just to see if they do a Display Back Chrono Evo...


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:shock: WOW, I don't log in for 24 hours and 2 pages of LE posts are added!

Firstly, once again thanks to Roff for asking the right questions and getting things moving.

Secondly I agree that (subject to cost) we should start with the lowest run number that Breitling will produce.... which I believe is 25. More could be added if demand was higher as I say below.

Then we need to determine a cut-off point for confirmed registration - be that a hefty deposit or 100% payment. As long as that cut-off point is made clear to the group with a decent lead time, then no current member will miss out on the option to buy because of time-zone differences. Anyone who joins the forum after that cut-off........ well, that's just unlucky for them - it may sound harsh, but we'd have to draw a line in the sand somewhere.

If we then find there are more than 25 people wanting one (or more than 25 pieces accounted for by people buying more than one), then I suggest we just move up in multiples of 5 as suggested, or even just the actual number we need - so for example we could end up with a run of 32 or something.

In terms of an acceptable price - well that's tricky as for me exchange rates come into play! But as a rule of thumb the most I'd be prepared to pay currently is the equivalent of £4K (GBP) for a low run number LE (i.e. 50 units or less).

In terms of the model - I'm still absolutely 100% behind the SOHC with red bezel and red sub-dials. The only other thing I'd INSIST on is the xx/xx engraved on the back. I personally don't want to see anything additional in terms of logo or wording on the dial or caseback, as I think that will detract from the watch....... and I frankly think it'd cause even more hassles trying to agree it! However, if we could get a Display Back included for the £4K (GBP) then I'd definitely sign up to that as well. (However, NOT having a DB is not a deal-breaker for me).

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I would LOVE to have the DB as it makes for a more elegant design. That said its a good point on which country/continent to use as the sole AD watches get shipped to. Whoever lives outside of that country will have to pay more to have the watch.

That said the US MSRP prices for the stock 2008 SOHC are as follows:

$4800 Ocean Classic
$4260 Diver Pro
$4560 Ocean Racer
$4630 Croco
$4870 Croco with Deployant
$4310 Leather
$4550 Leather w/ Deployant
$4150 Head only.

Roff, could we also inquire upon a croc with deployant with Matching stitching color to the bezel direct from Breitling? The pictures of the limited edition blacksteel AS's with the black strap and red stitching really look good to me ;)

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Roff, could we also inquire upon a croc with deployant with Matching stitching color to the bezel direct from Breitling? The pictures of the limited edition blacksteel AS's with the black strap and red stitching really look good to me ;)


That's easy to answer - it won't happen.

Breitling stitching is white. ABP can assist :lol:


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