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Although I voted for the TOC, I think that was only because I kind of want one, it's somewhat new (at least in itrs current version) and because I already have a Navi. The Navi is still the most iconic of all the Breitlings (along with the Chronomat) for me.

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I didn't vote because I simply can not decide. To me this would be the same as asking which one would I be willing to part with first and at the moment I could not part with any of them. If I really had to, it would be down to a coin toss.
All three of them share the same heart, the inhouse movement. All three have very long Breitling history but at the same time are very different from each other and are the current representatives of very different product lines.

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I like the Navi the best out of those choices as well..

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I really don't understand all the hate towards the 44. Such a great watch and some people had issues while I can say that the other 99.9999% of people didn't. I have one, its flawless.

To each their own...

I don't think it is so much "hate" but rather not enough "like" for many members to pay the high premium that the new Chronomats with the inhouse movement command.
This comes from an element of disappointment that Breitling decided to make the changes they did and most of it seems to be related to the font on the bezel, the rider tabs and the square on the dial.
All other comments like the date position and so on have always been there and always will.
Like yourself, I don't mind and I actually have grown to like my C44 quite a lot, even though initially I was a bit disappointed. For me it was mainly the rider tabs. The square on the dial and the bezel font does not bother me at all.
As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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I'd love to know how you arrived at that figure.

If we assume Breitling claimed full production capacity of 50K B01 movements per year, over 3 years since launch spread over the Chronomats/Navis/TOCs, that amounts to 150K watches.
0.0001 of that would mean that only 15 individual watches had problems.
I have a feeling there might have been a couple more

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Your math is out - it would actually be 0.15 watches that had problems - 1 defect in a million, and that assumes that every watch produced was a Chronomat which was what was being referred to, and that they all sold.

You are right, I forgot about the % bit but I have a perfect excuse, I'm on the 4th pint as I have nothing on tomorrow so weekend is here for me and yes in line with the "one heart three legends" motto I assumed all watches with the B01 movement.

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I went with the Navi, however it would be a tough choice between that and the TOC. In the end the Navi is such an iconic watch, I'd have to pick it!

Jeeebus guys, it was meant as a generalization. I didn't expect you to break out the math and figure to the exact watch.

Listen, from all the AD's I have spoken with and friends, my consensus is that the B01 is solid movement with excellent reliability. I am in IT and understand how this whole online debate works.

Same thing with any product - you are going to hear from the people with problems while the MAJORITY (ie the 99.99%) will not say a word. They will just be enjoying there Chronomat/Laptop/phone/placeanythingmanmadehere etc.

Just because you know a few people on these boards with issues doesn't make the entire Breitling lineup of B01's "unreliable" or whatnot.

Actually I know a Breitling service manager who commented on how many returns they had seen for warranty issues.

Can you elaborate a bit? How many warranty returns has he seen? And from the Chronomat or a combination of other models with the B01 movement.

And can you ask him how many he has seen since it's initial launch, say in the past year or since 1/2012.

I don't have more details, and he's not exactly going to 'spill the beans' on numbers. It was a comment that wasn't even solicited, just came out during a conversation - I'll soon lose the ability to have those conversations if I start asking specific questions and posting the responses here!

Just look at the other thread where you were asking for information on a display back - bozman52's watch went back four times, and he didn't join the forum to complain about his watch, he was a member already - and he is far from the only long term member who has had issues.

Right. So basically you have mentioned 1 person so far.

I can't count the service manager that you overheard in a side conversation. It could of been a bad day for him and maybe he had 3 or 4 returns that week for the B01 movement out of the other 400 watches. Who knows what was going on really.