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 Post subject: Re: What does UEL mean?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:53 am 
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Breitling had a programming error on some production runs of the movement - miscoding. It SHOULD say EOL. In short, it's a misprint. :oops:


It's a collectors item like misprinted currency. The value just doubled.

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I think this symbol on currency means it's misprinted ---> €

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 Post subject: Re: What does UEL mean?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:09 am 
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I understand how this would make you feel. You can just GIVE me the watch. :twisted:
You don't want a defective watch :evil:
But....On the other hand....We are talking about the SWISS.
They speak THREE different languages......So...Maybe UEL is a letter out of each :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:00 am 
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When you spend that kind of money on a watch you expect it to be right - it's like having no '3' on the tens dial for the date so the watch would only go up to 29 and then 20, 21 and then 1 again.

You wouldn't believe how many people have asked me what the flashing UEL meant on my watch when they saw it - I just nonchalantly stated that it's a misspell. "What on a Breitling?" they all said :wowzers . Okay, nobody asked but it does scream QUALITY CONTROL - what quality control?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:07 am 
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I agree. Isn't quality one of the reasons you pay for Breitling? It would seem to be embarassing.

Is it that hard to change? And are they still making replacement parts with that uncorrected?


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But....On the other hand....We are talking about the SWISS.
They speak THREE different languages......So...Maybe UEL is a letter out of each :wink:


Actually, they speak four: Romanche, French, Italian and German. So, your theory doesn't stand.:-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:44 am 
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What difference does it make? Something starts flashing and it keeps flashing. Whatever it says if you can't figure out that the mystery flashing display means you need a new battery, EOL isn't going to make a difference.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:48 am 
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Is it that hard to change?


One would think that it shouldn't be hard to change and that if it is known about - it should have been corrected IMO. Surely the SQ is 'reprogrammed' when the watch is recalibrated at service - then again, if it involved having to fork out God knows how much for a new movement ??????? Hmmmm :( . Anyway, Roff says that it isn't something that can be fixed and so we have to just 'live' with it :roll: sigh.

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If it's hard-coded, I would expect that it requires some sort of replacement chip, and whatever repair/rebuild of the movement that goes with it. I suspect that if it were merely in firmware, it would have been routinely fixed at servicing.

To answer sharkman: It makes a difference to people who just want the details right. I suspect there is a larger percentage of this type buying Breitlings than exists in the general population, or they wouldn't be going after precision timepieces. And, at these prices, and the reputation Breitling wishes, I believe the details should be right. Obviously, not everyone feels the same.


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What difference does it make? Something starts flashing and it keeps flashing. Whatever it says if you can't figure out that the mystery flashing display means you need a new battery, EOL isn't going to make a difference.


Ouuuuuuuccchhhh :shock: .

It's still an awful lot of money to pay for a watch to then find out there is a typo in it. I've never come across another 'cheaper' watch with a typo in it - so why is it okay to pay shed loads of money for a watch and for it to not be correct (yes it's only a minor thing but don't Breitling claim to pay attention to EVERY minute detail?).

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.....but don't Breitling claim to pay attention to EVERY minute detail?



Not to my knowledge.

I would rather they addressed the issues with their in house movements, their lack of design focus, their customer service issues, the way that they communicate with customers, the dealer sales targets that force grey market sales, etc before they start worrying about what the end of life indicator on a vendor supplied module says.

But that's just me.


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Try not to sweat the small stuff. This only occurs when the battery needs replacement. If there was a misprint or some other error on the dial at all times I could understand. Just try to look past this and worry about the more important things in life.

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It makes a difference to people who just want the details right. I suspect there is a larger percentage of this type buying Breitlings than exists in the general population, or they wouldn't be going after precision timepieces. And, at these prices, and the reputation Breitling wishes, I believe the details should be right. Obviously, not everyone feels the same.


I totally agree with you wrangler. Personally, I would return it to my AD presto. It's Breitling's problem and they should set it right. Even if that means a mechanism change if there's no alternative.

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I'm pretty anal when it comes to QC issues, but I've got to side with the "no big deal" camp here. Yes, it's technically a flaw, and yes, when we spend this kind of money on watches, everything should, in theory, be perfect. But as far as imperfections go, this one is pretty minor, assuming it otherwise has no effect on the watch's functionality. It only happens when the battery needs replacing, so it's not something you have to endure with any sort of regularity; comparing it to a date wheel missing a crucial numeral doesn't strike me as even remotely apt. Even if Breitling had gotten it right, and it flashed "EOL," it would still be something annoying you would want remedied ASAP, kind of like the service interval indicator on some cars (like mine); the misspelling only makes it slightly more annoying.


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I'm pretty anal when it comes to QC issues, but I've got to side with the "no big deal" camp here. Yes, it's technically a flaw, and yes, when we spend this kind of money on watches, everything should, in theory, be perfect. But as far as imperfections go, this one is pretty minor, assuming it otherwise has no effect on the watch's functionality. It only happens when the battery needs replacing, so it's not something you have to endure with any sort of regularity; comparing it to a date wheel missing a crucial numeral doesn't strike me as even remotely apt. Even if Breitling had gotten it right, and it flashed "EOL," it would still be something annoying you would want remedied ASAP, kind of like the service interval indicator on some cars (like mine); the misspelling only makes it slightly more annoying.


So, if instead of the reserve-gas light (to compare oranges with oranges) on your car, it's, say, the high beam that goes on, no big deal. You'll just have to do a little pushin'. :wink: :D

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So, if instead of the reserve-gas light (to compare oranges with oranges) on your car, it's, say, the high beam that goes on, no big deal. You'll just have to do a little pushin'. :wink: :D

That's not really the same thing. You're talking about an important function not working, and something else coming on in its place that is completely misleading, which could lead to a bad situation - namely running out of gas. In the case of the OP's watch, the battery-change indicator is still coming on; it's just showing the wrong letters. Also, it's only showing them once every battery change - hardly as often as I need to refill my gas tank. But hey, if it bothers him, and he can get Breitling to resolve it on their own dime, why not? I'm just saying that if it were me, I probably wouldn't go to the trouble.


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