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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:53 pm 
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I dont know which model he has, but Breitling will routinely replace the older movements with newer superquartz movements during full services. Its likely that they were suggesting a full service.

Ah, OK. That makes sense. That's why I said we need more info. If Breitling is just offering to upgrade to SQ as a matter of course, that's a totally different scenario than the one suggested by the OP.


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Are you for real! Just a heads up your going to get roasted here soon. You bought a Breitling and expected it to last forever? Were you aware of what you actually bought? You bought a mechanical watch, dude! There are several hundred pieces of precise parts that are required to work in concert to remain working. Just out of curiosity are you the same guy I see at a car dealership (not mine of course I don't buy crap) asking why you have to keep putting gas into the vehicle? A regular service for a watch that has been well cared for is upwards of $600 and is REQUIRED every 5-7 years (give or take).

If you want to compare Seiko and Casio to Breitling your in for a rough ride on this Forum when looking for sympathy. But keep posting it should be fun to watch.

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Alien wrote:
Just to clarify:
There are 3 possible watches/movements, You are talking about:

1. Intruder (former (New) Pluton), which has only a digital display at the 6 o'clock position. This watch was really bad. Asian movement, when the second hand was jumping, the whole movement was shaking...

2. Aerospace (including former Chronospace), which has a second digital field, where the funciton is shown. That watch is a lot better, the movement was initially developed by ETA, the first series (from before 1990) had issues with waterprotection, as the caseback was too thin.

3. Airwolf (former B1), which has an improved version of the Aerospace movement. There should not be any serious problems with that watch.

For 2. and 3. there is an easy possibility to synchronise the digital with the analog time: You have to chose the setting, where no digital display is shown, then pull the crown, and You can synchronise the times. Make sure, that You don't do that without noticing, as it could explain Your problem.BG
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Never thought of that. Would it cause a synched digital/analog to "un-sync?" Do you see it often?

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First, thank you all for your comments. Most of you see he problems correctly.
Service was always done by an Authorized B dealer in Budapest. The Grey watch which is with two digital displays, had most of the problems, Slipping twice over time. The last Full Service was done in September. Now it's slipped again, not by my hand in error. This Budapest Sevice Center was disqualified in August, without my knowledge. Therefore, no warranty on repairs and forget about recovering funds.
Yes, SHarkman, you seem to be very correct and professional. Breitling Viena, which is a major center and very helpfull, is suggesting a full service on both watches and a full replacement with Superquartz as an option, discounted price.

Now, after 30yrs in business, from microwave transmission to radiation detection, worlwide, I have seen defective machinery before. This whole thing does not sound, look or smell right. If anyone can point me into the right direction I will try to have them forwarded to the B management for them to see. By the way I have even bought and gave away a B as a gift to one of my business friends... Mechanical. After 15 yrs, no problems...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:03 pm 
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gobreitling26 wrote:
Yes, SHarkman, you seem to be very correct and professional.

He's a lawyer. It's his job to make you think that. :wink:

I'm not sure what smells fishy about this. The watches are having problems, and Breitling has given you options to repair them, or to upgrade the movements at a discounted price. Sounds OK to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:13 pm 
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No, my friend, it's not ok. Two watches, same problems. I have seen similar instances with electronics and mechanical units before. But thank you for the input.
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My first comment was not directed at you, but another member's post and my last comment wasnt directed anywhere near you. Have a pleasant day.

I hope your watch problem is adequately addressed by Breitling.

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Hi SHarkman, none at all, I appreciate you comments. You may need to see that I am new to this forum and I was not versed in replying. Sorry, really.
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gobreitling26 wrote:
Hi SHarkman, none at all, I appreciate you comments. You may need to see that I am new to this forum and I was not versed in replying. Sorry, really.
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My mistake. I was just inquiring of a Breitling AD about a possible reason these wathes can get out of sync. Good luck.

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So this is one of the watches... Viena is offering to replace BOTH watches mechanism, to SUPERQUARTZ for a special price. I am waiting to see WHATS THE DEFFECT part in each one.. we shall see, to be continued!


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gobreitling26 wrote:
So this is one of the watches... Viena is offering to replace BOTH watches mechanism, to SUPERQUARTZ for a special price. I am waiting to see WHATS THE DEFFECT part in each one.. we shall see, to be continued!



Offering to upgrade to SQ version of the movement is now standard - the older movements are getting to the point where they can not be maintained vs. the SQ movements which Breitling is committing to support for a minimum of 20 years past the point where they stop using them. An upgrade to SQ is not necessarily an indication that the old one is faulty, it's just a regular option, but not one that you should be forced into unless the existing movement is faulty / non serviceable.


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THANK you, thats exactly my position. Fixing these two units may not be an option as I lost faith. I am waiting for someone to point out to me a Breitling management contact, hopefully. Have a nice day, I know cold is coming your way, used to live in Montreal.. Brrrrrr...

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gobreitling26 wrote:
THANK you, thats exactly my position. Fixing these two units may not be an option as I lost faith.

Didn't they already quote you a price to fix the existing movements? If so, didn't they explain what was wrong with them?


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That's what I am waiting for now... I really don't want to fix the old mechanisms, I lost faith.


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gobreitling26 wrote:
So this time around, I gave both watches to the Breitling service people, who kindly offered me a special price to change the movement completely, for about 550usd each... Or fix them for 175usd each...

That's the part that's confusing me. You said they already gave you quotes on repair and replacement. At the very least, I would think that implies they can be fixed. Also, I would have thought they would also have told you what was wrong with the watches, and what they will do to fix them, so that you would know what they're doing for the price you're paying. But maybe I'm wrong.

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That's what I am waiting for now... I really don't want to fix the old mechanisms, I lost faith.

And now I'm doubly confused. If you don't want to fix the old mechanisms, then what's the problem? They're offering you a discount on changing the movements. Problem solved, no? Unless you're expecting they do it for free.


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