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but I guess it could be a 14060 (no date) Sub. Whatever it is, on the wrist it will look slightly smaller than the GMT in Serge's pic.

Both great watches but I agree it's apples and oranges. I like them both but if I could only have one it would be the Rolex, and the Rolex wins hands-down if retaining value is the critical factor. Here's my GMT next to the non-LE SOH:

Damn I love that GMT. For my needs the Sub is more useful, but the GMT just has a certain something. Good point, BTW, about the Sub the OP is considering maybe being a non-date.

OK. I trully appreciate all these great info from all of you. The posted pictures are making me drool. And from now on, I won't call anyone "Ms. Enthusiast", "Mr. Maniac", etc, as long as you guys don't call me "newbie". I prefer "greenhorn" myself.

I agree the obvious characteristics are layed out between watches. I really like them both but could only have one. That's my dilemma.

The Sub is authentic with original sales receipt, box, papers from Rolex dealer. I'm not a Rolex expert therefore I may have to authenticate the watch for peace of mind prior to purchase.

What is a "no-date"? Are we talking about datejust? I have soooo much to learn. I hope you guys have the "time".

Just to be clear: are you saying the current seller is a Rolex dealer who is selling the watch pre-owned, or is the current seller someone else, and claims to have all the original paperwork, boxes, etc., from the original seller, who was a Rolex dealer?


Some Submariner models literally have no date feature on the dial. It's just a watch. The Datejust is a different model, all of which, as the name suggests, have a date feature.

I would probably choose the SOHC bc it is a a top-line Breitling as opposed to a older Sub model. You get so much more for the price, and while the Sub is a classic watch I think the Heritage line is certainly one that wil not be outdated anytime soon.

Just ask yourself if you wanna be a small fish in a big pond, or a big fish in a little pond?

Damn...all these pictures of the GMT Rolex are giving me ideas and urges for next year. I got to control myself or start saving

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Speaking of big fishes, if we're talking the Sub 16610, it's the last Rolex James Bond ever wore. That's got to account for something, right?

the current seller is someone else who have all the original box/paper purchased from a Rolex dealer. He is willing to meet at the Rolex dealer where watch was purchased for verification.

The Sub was purchased in 2007 and has a date feature on the dial.

No problem. As Jackson has already responded, it's a Sub without a date function. Put 'Rolex 14060M' into Google and you'll find plenty of info about it. Like this link, for example:
http://www.newturfers.com/bin/mwf/topic ... ?tid=29984

Besides having no date, it differs from the 16610 date model in at least 2 other ways that I can think of at the moment: the case diameter is slightly smaller (by 0.5mm, I think) and the bracelet has hollow end links (in recent years the 16610 has had solid end link, or SEL, bracelets).

EDIT - your last post has made this one irrelevant, if it's a date model.

By the way, if it was purchased in 2007 it's probably a Z or M serial number (although it's difficult to know for sure because sometimes they can sit in stock for a while before being sold).

If it's genuine and the condition is very good or better (you haven't mentioned the condition), then mid 3s is an excellent price for a Z or M serial Sub date.

It's serial# "M" in mint condition. So is the 2007 Sub a better deal and more watch for the money than the top of the line 2010 SOH LE?

The SUB sounds like a good deal at that price. As fas as it being more for the money..... Yes and No. The SUB has an in-house Rolex movement and it retails its value fairly well....which is why i'm a bit surprised it's priced this low. The SOHC LE has a chrono and looks great on rubber, croc, leather, mesh...it's a great looking sporty watch. They're so vastly different watches which is why it is very hard to compare them.

I agree with Otto, if I had to choose between my Rolex GMT and Breitling SOHC LE, I would take the GMT without even thinking twice. But if it was between the 2007 Sub and the Breitling SOHC LE, I'd take the Breitling.

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Even though the 16610 had solid end links, I believe it retained the hollow center links until the end, if I'm not mistaken.

Not an easy choice, Ryan. My opinion on the matter hasn't changed since my first post in this thread. If anything it's been strengthened by the stated condition of the Rolex, and the fact that the seller is willing to meet you at the dealer where he bought it. It sounds like he's going the extra mile to convince you it's genuine, which is good. Keep in mind, I have a general bias in favor of non-chronographs and watches under 43mm, so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.

Yes, I think that's right.

Mid 3s for a mint M-serial 16610 is a very good deal. I would normally expect mid-to-high 4s. To illustrate, here is a current example listed at 4,825 from an excellent and reputable private seller:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.p ... ight=16610
(Hope it's ok to post this.)

Not trying to turn you off the SOH, I just don't know as much about the cost/resale issues with the LE so I can only talk about one side of the story. As Serge said, they're both great watches but very very different.

I think that's really the question I've been after. We know all about the Rolex brand specifically the Sub. But what about the top of the line SOH LE? Am I going to take a hit, if I decide to unload it in 3-5 years? I know the Rolex will hold value or at least close to purchase price. I agree they're both awesome watches.

Ryan